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The_Rookie Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:50pm

Get a suitcase when you travel
 
My second HS season comes to an end Friday and one area that I still have a hard time calling is TRAVELING...

Know what book states..but how do you recognize it? what should I be looking for?

Also, more emphasis on traveling in lane versus away from basket?

Thanks for some pointers!

stiffler3492 Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:54pm

It's all about picking up the pivot foot. Determine that, and that's half the battle. A lot of plays will look awkward, but as long as you don't lose the pivot foot, you'll be able to accurately determine whether or not a play is legal.

And, as the game slows down, it'll be easier. You might be able to anticipate some moves that might happen, and when they do, you'll be ready for them.

BillyMac Thu Feb 09, 2012 07:10am

When In Barcelona ...
 
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Originally Posted by The_Rookie (Post 821852)
More emphasis on traveling in lane versus away from basket?

My daughter's AAU team played in a tournament in Spain several years ago. The reverse of this (above) was definitely the case there. But I've never encountered this double standard here in the good ole USA.

Smitty Thu Feb 09, 2012 08:39am

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Originally Posted by stiffler3492 (Post 821854)
It's all about picking up the pivot foot.

No it's not. It's about picking up the pivot foot and putting it back down.

stiffler3492 Thu Feb 09, 2012 09:22am

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Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 821960)
No it's not. It's about picking up the pivot foot and putting it back down.

I know that. Let me rephrase. It's all about identifying the pivot foot.

Smitty Thu Feb 09, 2012 09:29am

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Originally Posted by stiffler3492 (Post 821976)
I know that. Let me rephrase. It's all about identifying the pivot foot.

So if you knew that why did you give a newbie asking a question the wrong information? That will only add to his confusion. You should go back and edit your post for any other newbies who might read it.

fullor30 Thu Feb 09, 2012 09:31am

If it looks like a duck...........

bob jenkins Thu Feb 09, 2012 09:41am

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Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 821980)
So if you knew that why did you give a newbie asking a question the wrong information? That will only add to his confusion. You should go back and edit your post for any other newbies who might read it.

He meant "pick up" in the same sense as "identify", not in the sense of "raise".

Lah me.

Smitty Thu Feb 09, 2012 09:44am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 821992)
He meant "pick up" in the same sense as "identify", not in the sense of "raise".

Lah me.

Oh obviously. :rolleyes: Now that you said it I get it. I have no clue what "Lah Me" means, but it wasn't obvious enough for a moderator to use a snarky response, if that's what it was meant to be.

Toren Thu Feb 09, 2012 09:52am

We're all getting better at calling travel violations or at least we should be trying to get better at it still.

Had a C level game last night and this kid throws the Euro step on a fast break. Caught me completely off guard and I rewarded him with a travel. I was upset because I thought I cut out most of my whistles where it just "looks" funny. :mad:

But as others have said, identify the pivot foot and traveling becomes a much easier call.

Rob1968 Thu Feb 09, 2012 09:57am

Of course, there's the spin move that is/isn't a travel, based on when the dribbler picks up the ball. It seems so many of such moves used to be called a travel, but evaluators/supervisors are telling us to not call it . . .

stiffler3492 Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:29am

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Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 821980)
So if you knew that why did you give a newbie asking a question the wrong information? That will only add to his confusion. You should go back and edit your post for any other newbies who might read it.

you know what, you're right. bad choice of words there. Get over it.

bob jenkins Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:03am

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Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 821994)
Oh obviously. :rolleyes: Now that you said it I get it. I have no clue what "Lah Me" means, but it wasn't obvious enough for a moderator to use a snarky response, if that's what it was meant to be.

IT means "look for the reason the OP might be right in what he's saying, even if it could be more clear, and not for the reason he's wrong or intentionally giving incorrect information."

Lah me.

Smitty Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:05am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 822030)
IT means "look for the reason the OP might be right in what he's saying, even if it could be more clear, and not for the reason he's wrong or intentionally giving incorrect information."

Lah me.

I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with you, but the choice of words was poor, at best. Who pee'd in your cornflakes this morning? Lighten up, Francis.

Rufus Thu Feb 09, 2012 01:03pm

I once had a clinician tell me "you know it when you see it." Not the most specific advice that.

This year I've been very aware of identifying the pivot foot. That's led to some travel calls when the ball handler lifts the pivot foot before releasing the ball to start their dribble so it's worked pretty well.


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