Duke/UNC

[eyezen]

Situation - Duke down 3 and takes 3 point shot and is tipped into the goal by UNC player. Officials gather and rule a 2 point goal. Explanation is shot didn't have chance to go in.

NCAA book downstairs, but NFHS 5.2.1.c sit a says it should be a three and gives no consideration to "chance to go in"

Is the NCAA rule the same?

Also, we are allowed to use the monitor to rule on a two or three point shot. I don't remember it being limited to behind the line situations, therefore couldn't they of gone to the monitor? Seems like a good reason to use it if you're allowed. Did i miss something in their ruling?

[Rich]

The try ends when it is obvious it is not successful: 4-73-4.

[eyezen]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

The try ends when it is obvious it is not successful: 4-73-4.

Very good. That explains the ruling. I'm going to do the not to question their judgement (but do it anyway) - was it obvious? Via TV it wasn't imho, trying to envision the view from the court.

[APG]

Originally Posted by eyezen

Very good. That explains the ruling. I'm going to do the not to question their judgement (but do it anyway) - was it obvious? Via TV it wasn't imho, trying to envision the view from the court.

Give me the time of the play and I can have it up later tonight or tomorrow afternoon.

[eyezen]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Give me the time of the play and I can have it up later tonight or tomorrow afternoon.

Not sure on time, but was their possession before the Rivers shot at the buzzer to win it.

[just another ref]

Curry had a travel inside the 2 minute mark that I might have called in the
9-10 year old league.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Give me the time of the play and I can have it up later tonight or tomorrow afternoon.

16 or 17 seconds left in the game. The call was never in doubt in my mind.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by eyezen

Very good. That explains the ruling. I'm going to do the not to question their judgement (but do it anyway) - was it obvious? Via TV it wasn't imho, trying to envision the view from the court.

Watching it live I thought the try had ended... I thought it was a good call.

[eyezen]

Originally Posted by tjones1

Watching it live I thought the try had ended... I thought it was a good call.

Looks like im in the minority, good call it is

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by eyezen

Very good. That explains the ruling. I'm going to do the not to question their judgement (but do it anyway) - was it obvious? Via TV it wasn't imho, trying to envision the view from the court.

Yes it was obvious. Otherwise, it would have been goaltending.

[VaTerp]

Yes, watching live the ball was wide and short of the rim and the try clearly ended IMO.

And Curry did get away with an egregious walk just before a crucial three that made it a 4 point game under 2:00.

Great game though. I can't wait for the sequel in Cameron.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

Yes, watching live the ball was wide and short of the rim and the try clearly ended IMO.

And Curry did get away with an egregious walk just before a crucial three that made it a 4 point game under 2:00.

Great game though. I can't wait for the sequel in Cameron.

The travel looked like he got his foot caught and he double tapped the floor with it.

[APG]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Curry had a travel inside the 2 minute mark that I might have called in the
9-10 year old league.

[APG]

Originally Posted by eyezen

Looks like im in the minority, good call it is

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by eyezen

Situation - Duke down 3 and takes 3 point shot and is tipped into the goal by UNC player. Officials gather and rule a 2 point goal. Explanation is shot didn't have chance to go in.

NCAA book downstairs, but NFHS 5.2.1.c sit a says it should be a three and gives no consideration to "chance to go in"

Is the NCAA rule the same?

The relevant NFHS case play would be 4.41.4B, not 5.2.1.c

4.41.4 SITUATION B: A1’s three-point try is short and below ring level when it hits the shoulder of: (a) A2; or (b) B1 and rebounds to the backboard and through the basket. RULING: The three-point try ended when it was obviously short and below the ring. However, since a live ball went through the basket, two points are scored in both (a) and (b). (5-1)

The only difference is that the shot was way long and had completely passed the rim (note where the tap back hit the board before it dropped in the basket) and it was hit by a hand and not a shoulder.

NCAA

A.R. 135. A ball passed from behind the three-point line:
(1) Enters the basket from above and passes through;
(2) Is deflected and enters the basket from above and passes
through; or
RULING: (1) A three-point goal shall be counted.
(2) When there is no possibility of the ball entering the basket from
above and the deflection causes the goal to be successful, it shall be a
two-point goal. However, when a ball is passed in the direction of the
basket with the possibility of entering the basket from above and the
deflection does not influence its success, a three-point goal shall be
counted.