Ejected Coach Rules Clarification

[IUgrad92]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

You seemed to be asking the question because you have a real-world situation that you are not sure how to handle. So my "something positive to add" portion was "You should get concrete answers from your officiating association or state governing authority."

My answer as to my jurisdiction was "I don't concern myself with it. If know a coach is suspended due to a previous ejection I just check to make sure he's not on the bench."

My own unsolicited input was "But anyway, how would our answers help you?"

My new question is "How have you decided or been told to handle it for the game in question?" assuming you are working the game or in that situation in the future.

Have I met all the elements of a correctable posting error?

There is a real-world situation, but I am neither a state association, an organization, or a conference, so I have nothing to do with it. And I don't recall asking everyone what I should do. Again, just curious as to how it is handled across the country, as I had never really put much thought to it and could think of quite a few scenarios that seemed reasonable.

I'm guessing back on the threads that asked about game fees you probably just posted a breakdown for your area. I doubt you responded by asking, "How would our answers help you?".

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

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I'm guessing back on the threads that asked about game fees you probably just posted a breakdown for your area. I doubt you responded by asking, "How would our answers help you?".

Apples and oranges. One question is clearly for informational purposes while the other started off as a "clarification" question in relation to a real situation.

I just assume when someone puts forth a real-world basketball question such as this one they are looking for a real-world answer that applies to their situation.

So, are you saying you are not a basketball official? If you are then how is it handled whereever it is you officiate because you still haven't told us that. If not, then my bad for assuming you were an official.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Apples and oranges. One question is clearly for informational purposes while the other started off as a "clarification" question in relation to a real situation.

It amazes me the things people get upset about when they ask a question. If you did not want an answer why would you ask in the first place? I guess I will never understand some people here at all.

Peace

[IUgrad92]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I just assume when someone puts forth a real-world basketball question such as this one they are looking for a real-world answer that applies to their situation.

So, are you saying you are not a basketball official? If you are then how is it handle whereever it is you officiate. If not, then my bad for assuming you were an official.

Yep, I am looking for real-world answers to how different areas handle this situation. And I got your answer, "I don't concern myself with it." You can determine from the posts to this point which ones I probably deem informative and which ones not so much.

Yep, I am an official. From what I've heard today, the coach was allowed to be a part of the Senior Night ceremony before the game and then left the gym.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

Yep, I am looking for real-world answers to how different areas handle this situation. And I got your answer, "I don't concern myself with it." You can determine from the posts to this point which ones I probably deem informative and which ones not so much.

Yep, I am an official. From what I've heard today, the coach was allowed to be a part of the Senior Night ceremony before the game and then left the gym.

And if he did, are you going to be the person that makes sure he does not participate? What are you going to do when the administration tells you to go jump off a cliff? You going to throw them out of the gym too?

See, this is why you need to talk to your local people. I would not do a thing and probably would not know this took place. I do not stand out and watch those ceremonies anyway. And if someone came and told me that happen, I would be like, "Oh.....OK."

We only control what goes on between the lines, not who participates in some ceremony that could be in the gym or down the hall. Not my/our concern unless there is a policy in place and even then I do not go looking for trouble.

Peace

[IUgrad92]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And if he did, are you going to be the person that makes sure he does not participate? What are you going to do when the administration tells you to go jump off a cliff? You going to throw them out of the gym too?

See, this is why you need to talk to your local people. I would not do a thing and probably would not know this took place. I do not stand out and watch those ceremonies anyway. And if someone came and told me that happen, I would be like, "Oh.....OK."

We only control what goes on between the lines, not who participates in some ceremony that could be in the gym or down the hall. Not my/our concern unless there is a policy in place and even then I do not go looking for trouble.

Peace

You asked what was done for the local situation. I don't care what was decided, just merely interested as to WHAT would be decided. I'm guessing if it wasn't Senior Night, he wouldn't have been there at all. I'm also guessing that the local assignor told the crew of the decision that was made and to make sure the it was carried out in a reasonable fashion.

I have no clue why some (you) thought I was making the decision for this situation. I've re-read all posts and nowhere did I say "I have to decide what to do." Trust me, if I were, I doubt I'd be coming here for guidance.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

...I'm guessing if it wasn't Senior Night, he wouldn't have been there at all. I'm also guessing that the local assignor told the crew of the decision that was made and to make sure the it was carried out in a reasonable fashion.
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I have my doubts that the crew would be told to make sure the coach was not in the facility. I don't think we have that authority.

[IUgrad92]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I have my doubts that the crew would be told to make sure the coach was not in the facility. I don't think we have that authority.

Considering it was a home game, I'm sure there were at least a few school personnel that could assist in making happen what needed to happen. It's called using the resources available to you. And I've never had a game where there wasn't gym administration available to get things done for situations, as you say, where we don't have authority. I think that's fairly obvious.

The crew doesn't have to start the game until they're satisfied that things are in order. That's the only authority you need.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I do not stand out and watch those ceremonies anyway.

Whoa...how do you guys get out of that?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

Whoa...how do you guys get out of that?

Did the two prelim games at senior night Tuesday. Freshman game went OT. JV game went 2 OT. We must have called 120 fouls. Senior night ceremony. Varsity game started more than 90 minutes late.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Did the two prelim games at senior night Tuesday. Freshman game went OT. JV game went 2 OT. We must have called 120 fouls. Senior night ceremony. Varsity game started more than 90 minutes late.

Wow...90 minutes late!

We were 35 minutes late Tuesday night because of Senior night.

I don't want to sound like it's that big a deal...but, just saying.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

Whoa...how do you guys get out of that?

If we know there is a ceremony we ask for the time frames and let game admin know we're going go back to the locker room during the ceremony.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

Whoa...how do you guys get out of that?

Easy, it has nothing to do with us. There was a Senior night tonight and we did not come out until the ceremony was over. No one makes us be there as it is not apart of our job description.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

Yep, I am looking for real-world answers to how different areas handle this situation. And I got your answer, "I don't concern myself with it." You can determine from the posts to this point which ones I probably deem informative and which ones not so much.
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Yes, but how many were positive as well as informative? And were any helpful and informative, but not positive?