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IUgrad92 Wed Feb 08, 2012 02:05pm

Ejected Coach Rules Clarification
 
Coach is ejected from HS varsity contest and leaves the playing area. Coach also is not allowed to coach the next game. Question is, can he still be at the game? Can he sit on the bleachers, but just not coach? Can he not be in the gym period?

Had never really thought about this part of the penalty. Not seeing anything from the Fed in this regard. Maybe it is handled at the state level?

What brought this up is that a coach was ejected and the 'penalty game' was Senior Night.... :eek:

JRutledge Wed Feb 08, 2012 02:11pm

This is completely a local issue. It will vary based on the state, organization or conference rules involved. No one can answer for every jurisdiction as this is not a playing rules issue.

Peace

IUgrad92 Wed Feb 08, 2012 02:22pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 821668)
This is completely a local issue. It will vary based on the state, organization or conference rules involved. No one can answer for every jurisdiction as this is not a playing rules issue.

Peace

Fair enough. Then I'd be curious to hear from those that have either been involved in such a situation or know how it has been handled in one's respective jurisdiction.....

JRutledge Wed Feb 08, 2012 02:33pm

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Originally Posted by IUgrad92 (Post 821671)
Fair enough. Then I'd be curious to hear from those that have either been involved in such a situation or know how it has been handled in one's respective jurisdiction.....

I understand you want answers, but not everyone's rules are same. In my area if you are ejected I believe you cannot be at the game, but that is not something I monitor or know in most cases who was ejected before the my game. It is not something we would enforce as we cannot prevent someone from attending a game. I believe it would be up to those that observed the coach and reported it to the state. And trust me, someone will tell them if they violate this rule.

Peace

Raymond Wed Feb 08, 2012 02:34pm

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Originally Posted by IUgrad92 (Post 821671)
Fair enough. Then I'd be curious to hear from those that have either been involved in such a situation or know how it has been handled in one's respective jurisdiction.....

I don't concern myself with it. If know a coach is suspended due to a previous ejection I just check to make sure he's not on the bench.

But anyway, how would our answers help you? :confused: You should get concrete answers from your officiating association or state governing authority.

IUgrad92 Wed Feb 08, 2012 02:43pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 821679)
I don't concern myself with it. If know a coach is suspended due to a previous ejection I just check to make sure he's not on the bench.

But anyway, how would our answers help you? :confused: You should get concrete answers from your officiating association or state governing authority.

Good grief. I thought this was a forum for basketball related questions...

People ask what games fees are across the country. People ask how different assignors handle certain things. I.E, people are curious on how things are done in different areas. How is this any different?

I'd suggest not posting if you don't have something positive to add. That is, unless you're trying to hit post #5,500 by the end of the month. ;)

tref Wed Feb 08, 2012 02:46pm

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Originally Posted by IUgrad92 (Post 821684)
Good grief. I thought this was a forum for basketball related questions...

You sir thought wrong! j/k :D

rockchalk jhawk Wed Feb 08, 2012 02:54pm

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Originally Posted by IUgrad92 (Post 821684)
Good grief. I thought this was a forum for basketball related questions...

People ask what games fees are across the country. People ask how different assignors handle certain things. I.E, people are curious on how things are done in different areas. How is this any different?

I'd say he has a pretty legitimate point. He did say that he wanted to hear how it was handled in YOUR JURISDICTION.

That being said, I don't think you're allowed to be in the gym around these parts, but I've never officially heard that I guess.

bowlingref Wed Feb 08, 2012 02:55pm

If a basketball coach has been ejected and someone has aquestion, I would think that is somewhat basketball related.

rockyroad Wed Feb 08, 2012 02:58pm

It's a valid question...people are just cranky this time of year. Tired from all the games + tax season, you know.

In Washington State, an ejected coach is not allowed to be in the gym at the next game.

Adam Wed Feb 08, 2012 03:34pm

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Originally Posted by IUgrad92 (Post 821684)
Good grief. I thought this was a forum for basketball related questions...

People ask what games fees are across the country. People ask how different assignors handle certain things. I.E, people are curious on how things are done in different areas. How is this any different?

I'd suggest not posting if you don't have something positive to add. That is, unless you're trying to hit post #5,500 by the end of the month. ;)

You don't mind if I post to tell you I don't know, do you?

And mbyron, shut up. :D

JRutledge Wed Feb 08, 2012 03:38pm

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Originally Posted by rockchalk jhawk (Post 821692)
I'd say he has a pretty legitimate point. He did say that he wanted to hear how it was handled in YOUR JURISDICTION.

That being said, I don't think you're allowed to be in the gym around these parts, but I've never officially heard that I guess.

It is a legitimate question, but not sure how we are to handle something we do not control. And that is why this question needs to be cognizant of the fact that officials do not take tickets, act as security and tell people who can and cannot come into a facility we do not own.

Peace

mbyron Wed Feb 08, 2012 03:48pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 821706)
You don't mind if I post to tell you I don't know, do you?

Almost to 19,600.

Raymond Wed Feb 08, 2012 03:51pm

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Originally Posted by IUgrad92 (Post 821684)
Good grief. I thought this was a forum for basketball related questions...

People ask what games fees are across the country. People ask how different assignors handle certain things. I.E, people are curious on how things are done in different areas. How is this any different?

I'd suggest not posting if you don't have something positive to add. That is, unless you're trying to hit post #5,500 by the end of the month. ;)

You seemed to be asking the question because you have a real-world situation that you are not sure how to handle. So my "something positive to add" portion was "You should get concrete answers from your officiating association or state governing authority."

My answer as to my jurisdiction was "I don't concern myself with it. If know a coach is suspended due to a previous ejection I just check to make sure he's not on the bench."

My own unsolicited input was "But anyway, how would our answers help you?"

My new question is "How have you decided or been told to handle it for the game in question?" assuming you are working the game or in that situation in the future.

Have I met all the elements of a correctable posting error?

IUgrad92 Wed Feb 08, 2012 04:14pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 821712)
You seemed to be asking the question because you have a real-world situation that you are not sure how to handle. So my "something positive to add" portion was "You should get concrete answers from your officiating association or state governing authority."

My answer as to my jurisdiction was "I don't concern myself with it. If know a coach is suspended due to a previous ejection I just check to make sure he's not on the bench."

My own unsolicited input was "But anyway, how would our answers help you?"

My new question is "How have you decided or been told to handle it for the game in question?" assuming you are working the game or in that situation in the future.

Have I met all the elements of a correctable posting error?

There is a real-world situation, but I am neither a state association, an organization, or a conference, so I have nothing to do with it. And I don't recall asking everyone what I should do. Again, just curious as to how it is handled across the country, as I had never really put much thought to it and could think of quite a few scenarios that seemed reasonable.

I'm guessing back on the threads that asked about game fees you probably just posted a breakdown for your area. I doubt you responded by asking, "How would our answers help you?".


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