What are your pet peeves about other officials?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

officials who call violations/fouls that simply didn't happen....

I would MUCH rather have a partner who just doesn't blow the whistle at all - because I can always come in and get the fouls/violations that need to be called....

This is like debating whether you'd rather be shot or stabbed.


You can always come in and call everything that needs to be called?

By yourself? Don't think so.

[twocentsworth]

Originally Posted by just another ref

This is like debating whether you'd rather be shot or stabbed.


You can always come in and call everything that needs to be called?

By yourself? Don't think so.

if you can't officiate - and it will be pretty easy to tell after a couple of minutes - you bet I'll come and get the calls that need to be made.

there's a reason why assignors put a younger/less experienced official on a game with two veterans....

[Smitty]

Player: high dribble
Partner: *tweeeeeet* Carry!
Me:

[Terrapins Fan]

I hate to be the first to say this, I was hoping someone else had this experience, but here's mine-

I hate working with guys who look down at you as an official. You know the guys, the ones that either work college ( and you don't ) and the guys who are on the elected board and it's beneath them to work with someone who is not on the board.

There I said it.

[rockyroad]

Officials who jump all over someone because they think the other guy is wrong without making any attempt to help their fellow official understand or get better.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Officials who jump all over someone because they think the other guy is wrong without making any attempt to help their fellow official understand or get better.

Had one of these in a JuCo game once. He did it at halftime. What particularly peeved me about it was that:

1. He wasn't the crew chief
2. When the crew chief asked what we had this guy insisted on going last, after the crew chief
3. We had an observer sitting with us

There were 3 plays he was upset about but instead of discussing them he just started ranting. First play I would have readily admitted I was wrong about if he had asked me (a whistle out my primary and not a game-saver). 2nd was on a fast break where he was C and I was Lead and A1, coming from C's area to the basket, took a solid shot to the head while making the layup and I put a whistle on it; he was crazy for thinking I should have passed on it. Forget what the 3rd play was but it was something that happened in a dual coverage area.

Point being instead of talking and asking about the plays to ensure we all got on the same page he just went off like some prima donna worried his reputation was being ruined by us mere mortals. On top of that the crew chief was a mentor of mine and the guy who got me into officiating and we had 2 1/2 hour ride home together. So I was going to get plenty of in-depth feedback and constructive criticism on my performance. I didn't need this U1 character interjecting his selfish bullsh!t on me in the middle of the game.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

I hate to be the first to say this, I was hoping someone else had this experience, but here's mine-

I hate working with guys who look down at you as an official. You know the guys, the ones that either work college ( and you don't ) and the guys who are on the elected board and it's beneath them to work with someone who is not on the board.

There I said it.

95% of the college/board guys I've worked with are not only good partners, but helpful as well. Offering good points of improvement and tips.

Occasionally, I get the big timer; but that's not isolated to guys who work college or big varsity games. I've had that attitude from perennial JV guys, too.

[Terrapins Fan]

snaqwells, I should clarify, it's not all of them, but it is a higher % than guys who don't do college and guys who aren't on the board.

And I have never gotten attitude from any jv officials. Lucky me I guess. I have had jv officials that do College, have attitudes toward the board, for not giving them Varsity games at the HS level.

Everyone needs to remember there are only so many games at every level. We all think we are God's gift to basketball refereeing, but the truth is, we all are not.

[Adam]

I'll agree the odds are better, and it's annoying to be on the court with a guy who seems to think he's doing penance by working with you.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

snaqwells, I should clarify, it's not all of them, but it is a higher % than guys who don't do college and guys who aren't on the board.

And I have never gotten attitude from any jv officials. Lucky me I guess. I have had jv officials that do College, have attitudes toward the board, for not giving them Varsity games at the HS level.

Everyone needs to remember there are only so many games at every level. We all think we are God's gift to basketball refereeing, but the truth is, we all are not.

I've never had problem with college guys at the HS level. Have encountered a couple jacka$$es at the JuCo level though.

I work a very modest college schdule and I've actually encountered more attitude from older, veteran Varsity officials and career JV officials who have never worked college basketball. I have quite often heard snide/sarcastic remarks from them about officials who go to camps and/or pursue college aspirations. I never advertised or voluntarily discussed what I was doing but of course word gets around. In fact, unless someone is part of my small inner circle I'm very uncomfortable discussing anything to do with me being a college official.

[26 Year Gap]

Guys who make up their own rules and are never wrong even when they obviously are. Thankfully, only a couple GIGDGO games this season.

[PG_Ref]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Player: high dribble
Partner: *tweeeeeet* Carry!
Me:

I second that emotion ... or the guy who sees the player fumbles the ball and falls to the floor - traveling.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

if you can't officiate - and it will be pretty easy to tell after a couple of minutes - you bet I'll come and get the calls that need to be made.

there's a reason why assignors put a younger/less experienced official on a game with two veterans....

So you'll call all over the floor in an attempt to cover for the other guy.

Nice in theory, but you'll be worse there and also worse in your primary when you do this.

Personally, I find it challenging enough to simply stay in my primary and only reach when we have a true elephant on the court.