The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #46 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 03, 2012, 02:55pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 1,847
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snaqwells View Post
I'm not doing captains meetings at 12 minutes if my partner isn't there yet. The least important part of the game can wait a few minutes. I'd rather walk out with my partner with 7:00 on the clock than alone at 15:00.
Excellent point.

This doesn't excuse the d***bag partner who strolls into the gym a few minutes before tip, shabbily dressed already, holding his shoes as he sits next to the scorers table changing his shoes. That sure lets everyone in the gym know he's a pro.

Last edited by Smitty; Fri Feb 03, 2012 at 02:57pm.
Reply With Quote
  #47 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 03, 2012, 02:56pm
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by tref View Post
This falls under handling our off-court business & a simple email/phone call/text is appropriate.
Exactly. The biggest benefit of arbiter is my ability to see who my partners are and contact them. Not only do we confirm game site and tip off time, but we also note what time we'll be at the school. If I'm going to be late (even 5 minutes), I'll note that so they aren't panicking 20 minutes before game time.
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Reply With Quote
  #48 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 03, 2012, 03:00pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 136
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
If you can't make it to the game in time, don't accept the assignment. The above is no excuse. It's selfish and screws your partner over.
Don't get me wrong I'm not advocating for just showing up 15 min before tip without warning. I'd let both my partner, the assigner and the AD know a few days in advance of the situation so it's not like I'd drop it out of the blue on anyone.

Lastly I understand what you are saying but the reality is in our particlar area there is a greater demand for officials than there is a supply. Our local association assigner has a difficult time getting all the games covered as it is. In fact we have several crews of retired vasity officials in thier 70's that end up doing local Jr High games for no other reason than we can't get anyone else to do them. We also have several people who routinely work 3jr high games at 3:30, then run to a different metro school to work a freshman game at 6. I don't imagine we are the only in which that is the case.

Given the reality of the situation I don't understand why provided there is responsible communications between all parties showing up 15 min prior to a JV tip is a terrible thing.
Reply With Quote
  #49 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 03, 2012, 03:01pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 1,847
Quote:
Originally Posted by Duffman View Post
Don't get me wrong I'm not advocating for just showing up 15 min before tip without warning. I'd let both my partner, the assigner and the AD know a few days in advance of the situation so it's not like I'd drop it out of the blue on anyone.

Lastly I understand what you are saying but the reality is in our particlar area there is a greater demand for officials than there is a supply. Our local association assigner has a difficult time getting all the games covered as it is. In fact we have several crews of retired vasity officials in thier 70's that end up doing local Jr High games for no other reason than we can't get anyone else to do them. We also have several people who routinely work 3jr high games at 3:30, then run to a different metro school to work a freshman game at 6. I don't imagine we are the only in which that is the case.

Given the reality of the situation I don't understand why provided there is responsible communications between all parties showing up 15 min prior to a JV tip is a terrible thing.
Where is your particular area?
Reply With Quote
  #50 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 03, 2012, 03:04pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 136
Id rather not say specifically, lest I tick someone off, but I live in an midwestern state and my home association is based in a metro of about 75,000 people and is responsible for assigning games for 3 metro high schools as well as 20-30 smaller high schools in the surrounding rural areas.
Reply With Quote
  #51 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 03, 2012, 03:04pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 2,183
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
Where is your particular area?
IKR! Sounds like any half decent official could move there & advance in a SoCal type of way.
__________________
I gotta new attitude!
Reply With Quote
  #52 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 03, 2012, 03:05pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 1,847
Quote:
Originally Posted by tref View Post
IKR!
WTF?
Reply With Quote
  #53 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 03, 2012, 03:06pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 136
Quote:
Originally Posted by tref View Post
IKR! Sounds like any half decent official could move there & advance in a SoCal type of way.
I wen't from first year official with 30 sub varsity games in year one to a full time crew with 20+ varisty dates in year two. Granted I had experience officiating at a local Y when I was in HS as well as a combined two decades as a player and volunteer assistant coach.
Reply With Quote
  #54 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 03, 2012, 03:06pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 2,183
I know, right
__________________
I gotta new attitude!
Reply With Quote
  #55 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 03, 2012, 03:06pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 136
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
WTF?
I know right?
Reply With Quote
  #56 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 03, 2012, 03:07pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 1,847
Quote:
Originally Posted by tref View Post
I know, right
Ahhh. Sorry, my age is apparently showing.
Reply With Quote
  #57 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 03, 2012, 03:08pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 136
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
Ahhh. Sorry, my age is apparently showing.
At least you got the internet thing figured out. Now if only you could master that VCR remote.

Last edited by Duffman; Fri Feb 03, 2012 at 03:11pm.
Reply With Quote
  #58 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 03, 2012, 03:10pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 1,847
Quote:
Originally Posted by Duffman View Post
At least you got the internet thing figured out. Know if only you could master that VCR remote.
Why I oughta......
Reply With Quote
  #59 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 03, 2012, 03:11pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 2,183
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
Ahhh. Sorry, my age is apparently showing.
My teenage daughter keeps me up to speed with latest lingo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
Why I oughta......
3 Stooges?
__________________
I gotta new attitude!
Reply With Quote
  #60 (permalink)  
Old Fri Feb 03, 2012, 03:13pm
Courageous When Prudent
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Posts: 14,845
Quote:
Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan View Post
snaqwells, I should clarify, it's not all of them, but it is a higher % than guys who don't do college and guys who aren't on the board.

And I have never gotten attitude from any jv officials. Lucky me I guess. I have had jv officials that do College, have attitudes toward the board, for not giving them Varsity games at the HS level.

Everyone needs to remember there are only so many games at every level. We all think we are God's gift to basketball refereeing, but the truth is, we all are not.
I've never had problem with college guys at the HS level. Have encountered a couple jacka$$es at the JuCo level though.

I work a very modest college schdule and I've actually encountered more attitude from older, veteran Varsity officials and career JV officials who have never worked college basketball. I have quite often heard snide/sarcastic remarks from them about officials who go to camps and/or pursue college aspirations. I never advertised or voluntarily discussed what I was doing but of course word gets around. In fact, unless someone is part of my small inner circle I'm very uncomfortable discussing anything to do with me being a college official.
__________________
A-hole formerly known as BNR
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Pet Peeves.......... surf24 Softball 81 Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:01am
Your Signal Peeves? Freddy Basketball 193 Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:21am
Your automatic Ts pet peeves? tjones1 Basketball 32 Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:24pm
Pet Peeves - Federation Bob M. Football 16 Sat Jul 12, 2003 10:34am
Partner peeves oppool Softball 16 Mon Feb 11, 2002 07:39am


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:43am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1