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Old Sat Jan 28, 2012, 10:04pm
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If team A comes out of a timeout with only four players and the ball is in play it is a team T when recognized for failing to have all players return at approx. the same time. I know that I have read somewhere that if during a substitution you end up with 4 players on the court and the ball is live it is OK for a player to come straight off the bench as long as its not deceptive. Can someone help me out where I read this?
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Old Sat Jan 28, 2012, 10:21pm
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10.3.2b
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Old Sat Jan 28, 2012, 10:28pm
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Old Sun Jan 29, 2012, 01:04am
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Why was the ball put in play with only 9 players on the floor? Did anyone notice this and try to rectify prior to putting the ball in play? Preventative officiating can ease a lot of pain.......
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Old Sun Jan 29, 2012, 06:42am
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10.3.2b
10.3.2 SITUATION B: After a lengthy substitution process involving multiple
substitutions for both Team A and Team B, A5 goes to the bench and remains
there, mistakenly believing he/she has been replaced. The ball is put in play even
though Team A has only four players on the court. Team A is bringing the ball into
A’s frontcourt when the coach of Team A realizes they have only four players. The
coach yells for A5 to return and he/she sprints directly onto the court and catches
up with the play. RULING: No technical foul is charged to A5. A5’s return to
the court was not deceitful, nor did it provide A5 an unfair positioning advantage
on the court.
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Old Sun Jan 29, 2012, 09:12am
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Why was the ball put in play with only 9 players on the floor? Did anyone notice this and try to rectify prior to putting the ball in play? Preventative officiating can ease a lot of pain.......
No one said a ball was put in play with only 9 players!! Good thing we had Preventative officiating..
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Old Sun Jan 29, 2012, 09:18am
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Why was the ball put in play with only 9 players on the floor? Did anyone notice this and try to rectify prior to putting the ball in play? Preventative officiating can ease a lot of pain.......
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No one said a ball was put in play with only 9 players!! Good thing we had Preventative officiating..
Really? Then please explain the initial post, "...4 players on the court and the ball is live..."
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Old Sun Jan 29, 2012, 09:54am
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Really? Then please explain the initial post, "...4 players on the court and the ball is live..."
This play came up in a discussion after a game in which it almost happened. The initial post did not say that it DID happen.
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Old Sun Jan 29, 2012, 09:58am
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Why was the ball put in play with only 9 players on the floor? Did anyone notice this and try to rectify prior to putting the ball in play? Preventative officiating can ease a lot of pain.......
It still can't prevent it all.
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Old Sun Jan 29, 2012, 11:02am
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10.3.2 SITUATION B: After a lengthy substitution process involving multiple
substitutions for both Team A and Team B, A5 goes to the bench and remains
there, mistakenly believing he/she has been replaced. The ball is put in play even
though Team A has only four players on the court. Team A is bringing the ball into
A’s frontcourt when the coach of Team A realizes they have only four players. The
coach yells for A5 to return and he/she sprints directly onto the court and catches
up with the play. RULING: No technical foul is charged to A5. A5’s return to
the court was not deceitful, nor did it provide A5 an unfair positioning advantage
on the court.
If this ever happens, be sure it is A5 that enters the court, and not A6 - which is a different situation.
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Old Sun Jan 29, 2012, 12:11pm
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If this ever happens, be sure it is A5 that enters the court, and not A6 - which is a different situation.
How are you going to be sure of that?

And please explain the difference?
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Old Sun Jan 29, 2012, 12:14pm
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How are you going to be sure of that?

And please explain the difference?
If it's A6, you have a direct technical on the sub for entering without checking in or being beckoned.

If it's A5, it's a team tech.

As for how be sure. I have no idea, other than asking the table. I do not keep track of which ten players are in the game at any given time.
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Old Sun Jan 29, 2012, 12:16pm
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If it's A6, you have a direct technical on the sub for entering without checking in or being beckoned.

If it's A5, it's a team tech.

As for how be sure. I have no idea, other than asking the table. I do not keep track of which ten players are in the game at any given time.
That was my point.
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Old Sun Jan 29, 2012, 01:18pm
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No one said a ball was put in play with only 9 players!! Good thing we had Preventative officiating..
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Really? Then please explain the initial post, "...4 players on the court and the ball is live..."
Perhaps the other team had 6????
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Old Sun Jan 29, 2012, 01:22pm
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If it's A6, you have a direct technical on the sub for entering without checking in or being beckoned.

If it's A5, it's a team tech.

As for how be sure. I have no idea, other than asking the table. I do not keep track of which ten players are in the game at any given time.
A good table keeps track.
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