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Triad zebra Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:04pm

4 players
 
If team A comes out of a timeout with only four players and the ball is in play it is a team T when recognized for failing to have all players return at approx. the same time. I know that I have read somewhere that if during a substitution you end up with 4 players on the court and the ball is live it is OK for a player to come straight off the bench as long as its not deceptive. Can someone help me out where I read this?

just another ref Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:21pm

10.3.2b

Triad zebra Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:28pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 817621)
10.3.2b

EXACTLY.........Thanks

refiator Sun Jan 29, 2012 01:04am

Why was the ball put in play with only 9 players on the floor? Did anyone notice this and try to rectify prior to putting the ball in play? Preventative officiating can ease a lot of pain.......

BillyMac Sun Jan 29, 2012 06:42am

Delay Returning To Court ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 817621)
10.3.2b

10.3.2 SITUATION B: After a lengthy substitution process involving multiple
substitutions for both Team A and Team B, A5 goes to the bench and remains
there, mistakenly believing he/she has been replaced. The ball is put in play even
though Team A has only four players on the court. Team A is bringing the ball into
A’s frontcourt when the coach of Team A realizes they have only four players. The
coach yells for A5 to return and he/she sprints directly onto the court and catches
up with the play. RULING: No technical foul is charged to A5. A5’s return to
the court was not deceitful, nor did it provide A5 an unfair positioning advantage
on the court.

Triad zebra Sun Jan 29, 2012 09:12am

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Originally Posted by refiator (Post 817676)
Why was the ball put in play with only 9 players on the floor? Did anyone notice this and try to rectify prior to putting the ball in play? Preventative officiating can ease a lot of pain.......

No one said a ball was put in play with only 9 players!! Good thing we had Preventative officiating..

BktBallRef Sun Jan 29, 2012 09:18am

Quote:

Originally Posted by refiator (Post 817676)
Why was the ball put in play with only 9 players on the floor? Did anyone notice this and try to rectify prior to putting the ball in play? Preventative officiating can ease a lot of pain.......

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triad zebra (Post 817752)
No one said a ball was put in play with only 9 players!! Good thing we had Preventative officiating..

Really? Then please explain the initial post, "...4 players on the court and the ball is live..."

Triad zebra Sun Jan 29, 2012 09:54am

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 817756)
Really? Then please explain the initial post, "...4 players on the court and the ball is live..."

This play came up in a discussion after a game in which it almost happened. The initial post did not say that it DID happen.

bob jenkins Sun Jan 29, 2012 09:58am

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Originally Posted by refiator (Post 817676)
Why was the ball put in play with only 9 players on the floor? Did anyone notice this and try to rectify prior to putting the ball in play? Preventative officiating can ease a lot of pain.......

It still can't prevent it all.

Rob1968 Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:02am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 817722)
10.3.2 SITUATION B: After a lengthy substitution process involving multiple
substitutions for both Team A and Team B, A5 goes to the bench and remains
there, mistakenly believing he/she has been replaced. The ball is put in play even
though Team A has only four players on the court. Team A is bringing the ball into
A’s frontcourt when the coach of Team A realizes they have only four players. The
coach yells for A5 to return and he/she sprints directly onto the court and catches
up with the play. RULING: No technical foul is charged to A5. A5’s return to
the court was not deceitful, nor did it provide A5 an unfair positioning advantage
on the court.

If this ever happens, be sure it is A5 that enters the court, and not A6 - which is a different situation.

just another ref Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:11pm

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Originally Posted by Rob1968 (Post 817775)
If this ever happens, be sure it is A5 that enters the court, and not A6 - which is a different situation.

How are you going to be sure of that?

And please explain the difference?

Adam Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:14pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 817796)
How are you going to be sure of that?

And please explain the difference?

If it's A6, you have a direct technical on the sub for entering without checking in or being beckoned.

If it's A5, it's a team tech.

As for how be sure. I have no idea, other than asking the table. I do not keep track of which ten players are in the game at any given time.

just another ref Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:16pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 817798)
If it's A6, you have a direct technical on the sub for entering without checking in or being beckoned.

If it's A5, it's a team tech.

As for how be sure. I have no idea, other than asking the table. I do not keep track of which ten players are in the game at any given time.

That was my point.

Camron Rust Sun Jan 29, 2012 01:18pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triad zebra (Post 817752)
No one said a ball was put in play with only 9 players!! Good thing we had Preventative officiating..

Quote:

Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 817756)
Really? Then please explain the initial post, "...4 players on the court and the ball is live..."

Perhaps the other team had 6???? :D

bob jenkins Sun Jan 29, 2012 01:22pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 817798)
If it's A6, you have a direct technical on the sub for entering without checking in or being beckoned.

If it's A5, it's a team tech.

As for how be sure. I have no idea, other than asking the table. I do not keep track of which ten players are in the game at any given time.

A good table keeps track.


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