4 players

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

10.3.2b

10.3.2 SITUATION B: After a lengthy substitution process involving multiple
substitutions for both Team A and Team B, A5 goes to the bench and remains
there, mistakenly believing he/she has been replaced. The ball is put in play even
though Team A has only four players on the court. Team A is bringing the ball into
A’s frontcourt when the coach of Team A realizes they have only four players. The
coach yells for A5 to return and he/she sprints directly onto the court and catches
up with the play. RULING: No technical foul is charged to A5. A5’s return to
the court was not deceitful, nor did it provide A5 an unfair positioning advantage
on the court.

[Rob1968]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

10.3.2 SITUATION B: After a lengthy substitution process involving multiple
substitutions for both Team A and Team B, A5 goes to the bench and remains
there, mistakenly believing he/she has been replaced. The ball is put in play even
though Team A has only four players on the court. Team A is bringing the ball into
A’s frontcourt when the coach of Team A realizes they have only four players. The
coach yells for A5 to return and he/she sprints directly onto the court and catches
up with the play. RULING: No technical foul is charged to A5. A5’s return to
the court was not deceitful, nor did it provide A5 an unfair positioning advantage
on the court.

If this ever happens, be sure it is A5 that enters the court, and not A6 - which is a different situation.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Rob1968

If this ever happens, be sure it is A5 that enters the court, and not A6 - which is a different situation.

How are you going to be sure of that?

And please explain the difference?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

How are you going to be sure of that?

And please explain the difference?

If it's A6, you have a direct technical on the sub for entering without checking in or being beckoned.

If it's A5, it's a team tech.

As for how be sure. I have no idea, other than asking the table. I do not keep track of which ten players are in the game at any given time.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

If it's A6, you have a direct technical on the sub for entering without checking in or being beckoned.

If it's A5, it's a team tech.

As for how be sure. I have no idea, other than asking the table. I do not keep track of which ten players are in the game at any given time.

That was my point.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

If it's A6, you have a direct technical on the sub for entering without checking in or being beckoned.

If it's A5, it's a team tech.

As for how be sure. I have no idea, other than asking the table. I do not keep track of which ten players are in the game at any given time.

A good table keeps track.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

A good table keeps track.

SoCalScorekeeper? chseagle?

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

If it's A6, you have a direct technical on the sub for entering without checking in or being beckoned.

If it's A5, it's a team tech.

As for how be sure. I have no idea, other than asking the table. I do not keep track of which ten players are in the game at any given time.

A T only if A5 is deceitful, as per rule if I'm following thread correctly

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by fullor30

A T only if A5 is deceitful, as per rule if I'm following thread correctly

It is a T if it follows a timeout. No T if it is a result of confusion during a substitution.

[Rob1968]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

If it's A6, you have a direct technical on the sub for entering without checking in or being beckoned.

If it's A5, it's a team tech.

As for how be sure. I have no idea, other than asking the table. I do not keep track of which ten players are in the game at any given time.

Input form the table's probably the only way to know. Whenever near the table on a substitution, I make sure they're noting who's coming in the game.

A similar situation occurred in a game two weeks ago. B Coach was subbing for rebounding/defense and offense. B5 was replaced by B6, for rebounding on a free throw. The shot was successful. The horn sounded, and B6 headed off the floor, while A5 reentered, at the beckoning of my partner. I had to hit the whistle and tell the B Coach that A5 couldn't reenter, until the clock had started, and that A6 would have to remain until that time.
B Coach then asked, "Can I sub-in another player?" I said, "Of Course, Coach." And he brought another player from the bench, for A6.
My partner is in his first year of Varsity ball, and he said he hadn't thought of the "has to sit a tick" situation.

[bob jenkins]

Yes, near the end of the game, I'm remembering who leaves on each "during play" substitution. I won't know the 5 who are still on the court, though, nor who leave on a "during a TO" substitution.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rob1968

Input form the table's probably the only way to know. Whenever near the table on a substitution, I make sure they're noting who's coming in the game.

A similar situation occurred in a game two weeks ago. B Coach was subbing for rebounding/defense and offense. B5 was replaced by B6, for rebounding on a free throw. The shot was successful. The horn sounded, and B6 headed off the floor, while A5 reentered, at the beckoning of my partner. I had to hit the whistle and tell the B Coach that A5 couldn't reenter, until the clock had started, and that A6 would have to remain until that time.
B Coach then asked, "Can I sub-in another player?" I said, "Of Course, Coach." And he brought another player from the bench, for A6.
My partner is in his first year of Varsity ball, and he said he hadn't thought of the "has to sit a tick" situation.

Had a coach try this on me once. The only reason I caught it is he did it with the player I had just called for the foul.