Upgrading

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Apples and oranges. The OP appears to be a deliberate act - not a basketball play.

I don't necessarily see it that way at all. It may have been but the OP gives no indication of how the elbow happened, just that it did.

I once, while playing, gave a guy a gash on his brow that needed stitches and I didn't even know I touched him. He was a friend and I'd never do such a thing on purpose to anyone, much less a friend. My elbow, in a normal basketball move, clipped his brow just right and popped it open. I did have the ball and was wondering, as I drove the the basket, how I had beat him so badly when he was no longer with me.

Elbows meet faces all the time in normal plays. Elbows are moving parts of the body that simply move a lot when players are running around. It may or may not have been deliberate...I think you' have to be there to make that judgement (or trust the OP if he had said it was...and he didn't).

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I don't necessarily see it that way at all. It may have been but the OP gives no indication of how the elbow happened, just that it did.
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(or trust the OP if he had said it was...and he didn't).

I based it on the OP saying this a few posts in, which led me to believe he thought it was intentionel:

Originally Posted by mbyron

The kids were the same height. Could an elbow to the nose by a player without the ball cutting across the lane have been accidental?

But reading that a few times I am not sure if he was sure or not. Anyway, I was saying apples/oranges on the assumption that it was intentional. And you know what happens when I assume...

[just another ref]

On the issue of blood and how much it is a factor. I was waiting for somebody to point out that nosebleeds have been know to occur spontaneously, all by themselves for no apparent reason.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by just another ref

On the issue of blood and how much it is a factor. I was waiting for somebody to point out that nosebleeds have been know to occur spontaneously, all by themselves for no apparent reason.

Did you upgrade?

[referee99]

In the OP, was your partner suggesting that you think about upgrading? I appreciate a partner who does so if they feel its warrented.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by referee99

In the OP, was your partner suggesting that you think about upgrading? I appreciate a partner who does so if they feel its warrented.

My partners did not approach me. I don't think they saw the play at all.

I think Toren correctly diagnosed that I am second-guessing myself based on not having seen this kind of "play" much. My discomfort with not having upgraded is somewhat mitigated by the facts that (a) I did get the TC foul, so B got possession, (b) it was a blowout, so the fact that B did not get FT's didn't affect the outcome, and (c) the player who threw the elbow did it with his 5th foul and was out of the game anyway.

Still, I wish I'd gone with INT. Definitely filed away for future reference.

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by mbyron

My partners did not approach me. I don't think they saw the play at all.

I think Toren correctly diagnosed that I am second-guessing myself based on not having seen this kind of "play" much. My discomfort with not having upgraded is somewhat mitigated by the facts that (a) I did get the TC foul, so B got possession, (b) it was a blowout, so the fact that B did not get FT's didn't affect the outcome, and (c) the player who threw the elbow did it with his 5th foul and was out of the game anyway.

Still, I wish I'd gone with INT. Definitely filed away for future reference.

I still don't see how you would still think of the INT when you haven't even described how the elbow met the nose.