Charge???

[Tebo2526]

Like I originally posted. The call was made by the trail official farthest from the play (not sure what position you guys call that). Is there ever a point where one official steps in (like the guy right beside it) and maybe straightens the other guy out? Or is that something that you never should do?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Tebo2526

Like I originally posted. The call was made by the trail official farthest from the play (not sure what position you guys call that). Is there ever a point where one official steps in (like the guy right beside it) and maybe straightens the other guy out? Or is that something that you never should do?

The play in question the ball came from his position, so how far he was is not relevant. I do not like the call I saw, but not because of the positioning of the officials.

Peace

[APG]

What do you mean "straighten him out"?

Distance isn't the only factor in determining who or who should not make a call.

[Jeremy Hohn]

i try to tell younger officials, especially in 3 person games, that calls should be made by "open" or "closed" looks and angles. Just because a person is close to a play doesn't mean they have the best way to process the entire play and make an accurate ruling.

[Raymond]

Isn't this the same school where we saw the play with A1 punching/shoving the defender in the neck/face area? (girl's game)

[gdudik]

I have no call, unless there's more contact than it looks like. It looks like a flop from this angle.

[Cav0]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Isn't this the same school where we saw the play with A1 punching/shoving the defender in the neck/face area? (girl's game)

Negative, although they are both named Trinity Christian, these were not the same school. I'm not even sure if they are in the same state.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Tebo2526

Like I originally posted. The call was made by the trail official farthest from the play (not sure what position you guys call that). Is there ever a point where one official steps in (like the guy right beside it) and maybe straightens the other guy out? Or is that something that you never should do?

Yes, there is a time when this can happen, but it's not on this play.

[jkumpire]

Reading the thread responses leads me to asking this question: If you think it's a flop would you consider calling the defender for a Technical Foul?

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by jkumpire

Reading the thread responses leads me to asking this question: If you think it's a flop would you consider calling the defender for a Technical Foul?

For a genuine flop, I'd consider it. For what many people call a flop — slight contact inducing a histrionic fall and yell — no.

Genuine flops are exceedingly rare, in my experience.

[gdudik]

Originally Posted by mbyron

For a genuine flop, I'd consider it. For what many people call a flop — slight contact inducing a histrionic fall and yell — no.

Genuine flops are exceedingly rare, in my experience.

How do you differentiate between a "genuine flop" and what you describe above? Would a genuine flop be no contact as opposed to slight contact?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by gdudik

How do you differentiate between a "genuine flop" and what you describe above? Would a genuine flop be no contact as opposed to slight contact?

Experience. Anticipating and bracing for contact (by leaning backwards to soften the blow) are allowed. Often, though, those actions minimize contact enough to make it incidental.

Faking being fouled is different, and needs to be obvious.

[gdudik]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Experience. Anticipating and bracing for contact (by leaning backwards to soften the blow) are allowed. Often, though, those actions minimize contact enough to make it incidental.

Faking being fouled is different, and needs to be obvious.

Fair enough.

[ref2coach]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Experience. Anticipating and bracing for contact (by leaning backwards to soften the blow) are allowed. Often, though, those actions minimize contact enough to make it incidental.

Faking being fouled is different, and needs to be obvious.

Agreed in full.

Now, In our state a common mantra of the State supervisors is "there has to be a whistle EVERY time bodies hit the floor". What is the right thing to do when the B1 anticipates contact, A1 pulls up and shoots staying within his verticality but B1 being barely touched, falls to the floor? Compounded by A1 missing the shot and you now have rebounding action with a player on the floor endangering himself and others?

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by mbyron

For a genuine flop, I'd consider it. For what many people call a flop — slight contact inducing a histrionic fall and yell — no.

Genuine flops are exceedingly rare, in my experience.

I haven't called one..........yet.