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Old Wed Jan 18, 2012, 10:27pm
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But what's the rule basis here? 2-8-1?
That gives you the authority to call the T without adding to the book. I'd likely not assess the indirect in this case, and I'd have to feel certain that it was.a player from the same school, but there's a good chance I'd go there if it played out as I envision.
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Old Wed Jan 18, 2012, 10:54pm
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Unless it was a player for either team I am not assessing a T here.
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Old Wed Jan 18, 2012, 11:15pm
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Wait, what if it's a JV girls' game?
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Old Wed Jan 18, 2012, 11:37pm
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Wait, what if it's a JV girls' game?
Then its a forfeit.
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Old Thu Jan 19, 2012, 05:18am
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A technical foul is definitely WRONG in this situation.
The rule is clear and states that the act must be committed by "bench personnel, including the head coach." (10-4)

Simply have the person removed from the court and continue with the pre-game warm-up.
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Old Thu Jan 19, 2012, 07:01am
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A T is a T is a T

T him. Presumably the rule in effect says no dunking in pregame. He's part of the pregame for one team if he's on the court and in uniform, per 4-24-4. He's in uniform, He dunks. We whack. The coach is responsible for controlling his own warm-up.

I find the excuse that he's not bench personnel because he is not in the book unavailing. That would mean a team could send its team out to warm up, list nobody in the book, dunk away, intimidate the opposition, then retreat immune from anything beyond a single administrative T

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Old Thu Jan 19, 2012, 07:50am
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A technical foul is definitely WRONG in this situation.
The rule is clear and states that the act must be committed by "bench personnel, including the head coach." (10-4)

Simply have the person removed from the court and continue with the pre-game warm-up.
Except he is bench personnel. Bench personnel include "all individuals who are . . . affiliated with a team." 4-34-2

Anyone being permitted by the team to participate in the warm-up is clearly affiliated with the team.

Considering the practice of having players play at both levels is not exactly rare, I'm not sure how you get around the T by rule as he very well could be a JV player as well.
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Old Thu Jan 19, 2012, 11:00am
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Except he is bench personnel. Bench personnel include "all individuals who are . . . affiliated with a team." 4-34-2
Affiliated with the school? Certainly. With the TEAM? Not necessarily. A varsity player is on a different team than the JV team (swingers notwithstanding). If he's not in the book, and he's not an assistant coach, trainer, or manager, he's really just a fan.

Again, this is a player technical foul, not a team one. You must have someone to whack, and if he's not involved in that game, the only reason for a team T would be to stretch 2-8-1.
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Wait, what if it's a JV girls' game?
I'd give the ball back to her and have her do it again!!!
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