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There was a bjv game in our area with a interesting warmup. As the home team was warming up, a varsity member got in the line and dunked. The officials T'd the home team, gave them a team foul, and coach had to sit. What do you think?
I think that player had extra running in his next practice.
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I think that player had extra running in his next practice.
My coach would have had us all running extra.
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I'm not sure a T applies here.

It's been explained to us that, at halftime, if the varsity comes on the floor and shoots around while the actual teams are in the locker room, that's fine, until the actual players of that game take the floor again. Additionally, if someone dunks who's not playing in that game, we have no jurisdiction to give a technical foul.

I have to think this also applies in pre-game. Besides, this infraction (pre-game dunking) is a player technical foul, not a team technical. Granted, this player shouldn't have been on the floor in the first place, but if the player is not in the book, there's no foul.
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Old Thu Jan 19, 2012, 08:15pm
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Varsity Players ‘warming up’ with JV Players at Pre-Game & Halftime? Consider this….
It happens everywhere more and more. Varsity players get out and warm-up with JV players. But consider this; when they do so, there is no distinguishing between a JV player and a varsity player. If the officials are on the floor, they have jurisdiction. So when that Varsity player wants to demonstrate his jumping ability and dunk….it is a “T” just like any other time. Might ‘seem’ farfetched at first, but nearly EVERY coach agrees the integrity of the game needs to be protected. It starts with simple enforcement of regular adopted game rules
I like it and it's exactly the way I would handle it.

I guess those who wouldn't assess the T would allow the entire varsity team to take the floor and dunk to their hearts content without penalty. i mean, if it's not illegal, then there's no rule available to stop them from doing it.

As for players not being allowed to dunk in pre-game, it's a safety issue. in warm-ups, you're going to have kids trying to dunk who can't dunk. A kid who can barely touch the rim is more subject to falling and getting injured than a 6'8" player. Also, there's the risk of damaging equipment. It's legal during the game, so if some damage occurs, it's something that happens. But do school systems really want to spend $$ replacing a backboard because some knucklehead was showing off in warmups? I don't think so.

As for the coach sitting, he's responsible for bench personnel. I don't see why that's difficult to understand.
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I would T a player who is warming up with the team and looks like he belongs to the team. I would not T a player who just comes on the court, dunks and leaves.

I would tell the coach to keep his varsity kids off the court. Warming up with the players and coming on the court just to dunk and leave are 2 different things IMO.

The issue I would also see is since this is also a player tech we would have to add the player to the book which could have eligibility issues etc.
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