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Old Thu Jan 19, 2012, 02:33pm
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I say look at the video again. B1 establishes LGP then when A1 moves left B1 moves in the same direction. And B1 even gets both feet down again before A1 goes airborne.
The file linked looks like it has more to do with continuous motion vs block/charge and LGP, but it sounds like I may have a misunderstanding of the rule. What is the rule that talks about the offensive player having to be airborne? I've always worked under the understanding that the defensive player has to be set before the shooting motion has started.
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Old Thu Jan 19, 2012, 02:40pm
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The file linked looks like it has more to do with continuous motion vs block/charge and LGP, but it sounds like I may have a misunderstanding of the rule. What is the rule that talks about the offensive player having to be airborne? I've always worked under the understanding that the defensive player has to be set before the shooting motion has started.
Since this was an NCAA play I'm quoting the NCAA rule:

Rule 4 Section 35. Guarding

Art. 4.
To establish an initial legal guarding position on the player with the ball:
a. The guard shall have both feet touching the playing court. When the guard jumps into position initially, both feet must return to the playing court after the jump, for the guard to attain a legal guarding position.
b. The guard’s torso shall face the opponent.
c. No time and distance shall be required.
d. When the opponent with the ball is airborne, the guard shall have attained legal guarding position before the opponent left the playing court.
(Exception: Rule 4-35.7)


(the exception noted refers to secondary defenders in the restricted area arc)
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Old Thu Jan 19, 2012, 02:42pm
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The file linked looks like it has more to do with continuous motion vs block/charge and LGP, but it sounds like I may have a misunderstanding of the rule. What is the rule that talks about the offensive player having to be airborne? I've always worked under the understanding that the defensive player has to be set before the shooting motion has started.
4-Guarding (4-23?) pretty clearly states something to the effect of "the guard must have obtained LGP before the opponent becomes airborne" and not "before the opponent starts his/her try"
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Old Thu Jan 19, 2012, 02:47pm
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4-Guarding (4-23?) pretty clearly states something to the effect of "the guard must have obtained LGP before the opponent becomes airborne" and not "before the opponent starts his/her try"
4-23-4:

Guarding an opponent with the ball or a stationary opponent without
the ball:
a. No time or distance is required to obtain an initial legal position.
b. If the opponent with the ball is airborne, the guard must have obtained legal
position before the opponent left the floor.
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Old Thu Jan 19, 2012, 02:52pm
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I've always worked under the understanding that the defensive player has to be set before the shooting motion has started.
Others have posted the correct rules for the main part of your question...I would like to ask you to get the word "set" out of your understanding of the whole block/charge scenario. The defender does not need to be "set" in order for it to be a PC call. Just a pet peeve of mine...
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