Jump stop then pivot...Travel?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by jump stop

It is very difficult to tell if one foot is on the floor when the dribble ends.

This is a huge deal. Forget about jump stops. If we could absolutely tell when the dribble ended, probably 75% of layups could be called a travel. And this cycle continues to spin. The more that is given, the more the players take, and the more that is not called at higher levels, the more it is expected (by some) to trickle down.

[Welpe]

Hence why it is a good idea to not guess. Let's shoot the big fish and leave the guppies alone.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

It's "LeBron" rather than LaBron.

It's been forty years since I took high school French. I believe that the noun, "Bron", takes the masculine article, "Le", rather than the feminine article, "La".

[jump stop]

Originally Posted by just another ref

This is a huge deal. Forget about jump stops. If we could absolutely tell when the dribble ended, probably 75% of layups could be called a travel. And this cycle continues to spin. The more that is given, the more the players take, and the more that is not called at higher levels, the more it is expected (by some) to trickle down.

Absolutely, The skills that players do in games have changed over the years from the crossover, Euro step, use of jump stop, step back jumper, or use of hesitation move. Players are being drilled on these moves all the time(just go to a skills camp) and they watch NBA or D1 players do them.

A really skilled player will push the rules to the limit and test the referees abilities. I think its great and most moves are in the within the rules. Lets face it the fans love to watch skilled players whether it is a step back jumper like by Kemba Walker , cross over by Steve Nash, or Euro step by Dwayne Wade.

In my opinion, I think NCAA Div. I or NBA officials embrace these skilled moves and understand them to the core and do not fight against them.
Just like this move in the video, he did not land simultaneously( but do they ever land absolutely simultaneously think about it? Did he gather with one foot on floor?

Now some things need to be cleaned up, like the Rivers kid from Duke shuffling his feet

[Adam]

Originally Posted by hoopmaster24

That is not considered a travel for most basketball leagues in most places

And why not?

I agree, but only because it's hard to tell when he gathers. It's close enough that your statement here is less than true.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by hoopmaster24

That is not considered a travel for most basketball leagues in most places

By rule it is most definitely a travel. The problem is determining that he gathered with his foot on the ground which is often difficult to do at real speed.