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Old Mon Jan 09, 2012, 02:36pm
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Excessive Time Out

If a player calls a time out and his team has none remaining, is the technical foul an administrative T or is it charged to the player that called it? My instinct tells me it's an administrative T.
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Team technical. Rule 10-1-7.
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Old Mon Jan 09, 2012, 02:40pm
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Had a Chris Webber on Saturday, its an administrative T & charged to the team.
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Same particulars for a T for having too many players on the court? I would think that's also an "administrative" technical against the team and not against a single player. After all, which player is the "one too many"?
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Old Mon Jan 09, 2012, 02:44pm
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I was at a game where this occurred. Wasn't sure but the officials that worked the game charged the player that called the timeout with the foul, which then happened to be his 5th foul. Bad thing for that player also was that the score was tied at the time and he called it with :01 left. Subsequent technical foul shots lost the ball game for his team.
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Same particulars for a T for having too many players on the court? I would think that's also an "administrative" technical against the team and not against a single player.
You are correct. 10-1-6.

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Team technical, yes. But administrative?
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Same particulars for a T for having too many players on the court? I would think that's also an "administrative" technical against the team and not against a single player. After all, which player is the "one too many"?
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Old Mon Jan 09, 2012, 03:51pm
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Team technical, yes. But administrative?
NFHS does not have that category, but other rule sets do. Some folks use it as shorthand for "don't charge it to a player or coach."
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NFHS does not have that category, but other rule sets do. Some folks use it as shorthand for "don't charge it to a player or coach."
To be fair, it's the descriptive heading for the first section of the technical foul summary table in the back of the NFHS book - all of which are team technical fouls.
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Old Mon Jan 09, 2012, 03:58pm
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When I think of administrative, I think of something in the book, as opposed to something on the court.
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When I think of administrative, I think of something in the book, as opposed to something on the court.
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For example, "maximum one administrative technical foul per team."

If you don't charge it to a player (including subs) or a coach, it's a team (or possibly bench). I believe an administrative can only be a team T.

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Pretty Simple ...

If a team requests and is granted an excess timeout, then a team technical foul is charged. The penalty for an excessive timeout is assessed when discovered.
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For example,"maximum one administrative technical foul per team."
Some administrative infraction technical foul situations can occur before the jump ball is even tossed. If a team fails to supply the official scorer with its roster, and/or designate its five starting players at least ten minutes before the scheduled starting time, then a team technical foul is charged. This team technical foul is charged when it occurs, after the ten minute time limit. A maximum of one technical foul is charged for both requirements (roster and/or starters).

After the ten minute time limit a team is charged with a maximum of one technical foul regardless of how many infractions of the following are committed: changing a designated starter, adding a name to the team member list, requiring the scorer to change a team member’s or player’s number in the scorebook, requiring a player to change to the number in the scorebook, and/or having identical numbers on team members and/or players. Each player must wear the number indicated in the scorebook, or change the official scorebook number to that the player is wearing. Any additional substitutes who become players and require the changing of the number indicated for them in the official scorebook will not result in a penalty, as the one maximum technical has already been charged to the team for that team’s administrative infraction
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I fail to see

what's not so simple?
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