Legal Guarding Position?

[Huntin' Ref]

Last night I called a pushing foul when a defender "walked into" the post player attempting a shot from behind and committed an obvious foul. This situation had me think about a similar situation that could occur. I looked it up in the case book and rule book and can't seem to string together a clear understanding so I am hoping that some of my esteemed colleagues (you guys) can help me out.

Post player near the block pivots and squares up to the basket. Primary defender is bodied up and vertical. Secondary defender closes down from guarding a player at the wing and puts their body against or almost against the offensive players back. What do you have if the offensive player tries to take a shot but contact occurs as they are essentially "trapped" from behind? Is this a LGP issue?

Thanks in advance!

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Huntin' Ref

Last night I called a pushing foul when a defender "walked into" the post player attempting a shot from behind and committed an obvious foul. This situation had me think about a similar situation that could occur. I looked it up in the case book and rule book and can't seem to string together a clear understanding so I am hoping that some of my esteemed colleagues (you guys) can help me out.

Post player near the block pivots and squares up to the basket. Primary defender is bodied up and vertical. Secondary defender closes down from guarding a player at the wing and puts their body against or almost against the offensive players back. What do you have if the offensive player tries to take a shot but contact occurs as they are essentially "trapped" from behind? Is this a LGP issue?

Thanks in advance!

Yes, it's an LGP issue. If B2 keeps moving into the shooter, I have a foul or nothing. If B2 stops before A1 leaves the floor, I probably have nothing.

[VaTerp]

Agree it's a LGP issue.

The secondary defender is entitled to that spot on the floor provided they got their before the offensive player begins their habitual shooting motion and the initial contact, if any, is not deemed illegal.

As long as the secondary defender does not continue moving toward the offensive player, I've got nothing. I'm not "bailing" the kid out for essentially forcing up a bad shot.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

Agree it's a LGP issue.

The secondary defender is entitled to that spot on the floor provided they got their before the offensive player begins their habitual shooting motion.

reference, please.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

reference, please.

I knew this was coming after I typed it. A case of too much verbiage on my part.

What I meant was that if the secondary defender gets their after the player begins "to take a shot" as referenced in the OP then I would say that defender has not established LGP and the contact that occurs would be illegal based on 4.23 art. 1.

[tref]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

What I meant was that if the secondary defender gets their after the player begins "to take a shot"...

Do you mean if the 2ndary defender gets there before the shooter alights?