Legal Guarding Position?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

Agree it's a LGP issue.

The secondary defender is entitled to that spot on the floor provided they got their before the offensive player begins their habitual shooting motion.

reference, please.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

reference, please.

I knew this was coming after I typed it. A case of too much verbiage on my part.

What I meant was that if the secondary defender gets their after the player begins "to take a shot" as referenced in the OP then I would say that defender has not established LGP and the contact that occurs would be illegal based on 4.23 art. 1.

[tref]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

What I meant was that if the secondary defender gets their after the player begins "to take a shot"...

Do you mean if the 2ndary defender gets there before the shooter alights?

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by tref

Do you mean if the 2ndary defender gets there before the shooter alights?

No.

[tref]

Okay, I just asked based on your first response:

Originally Posted by VaTerp

The secondary defender is entitled to that spot on the floor provided they got their before the offensive player begins their habitual shooting motion and the initial contact, if any, is not deemed illegal.

I thought all players in HS were entitled to a spot provided they got there before the shooter alights

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

No.

You should have meant that, because that's the rule. "Beginning the customary motion" has nothing to do with LGP. LGP can be established well after the customary motion, and any (well, most) foul after that time until the offensive player becomes airborne would then be a PC (or TC) foul.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by tref

Okay, I just asked based on your first response:



I thought all players in HS were entitled to a spot provided they got their before the shooter alights

I'm wrong then.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

You should have meant that, because that's the rule. "Beginning the customary motion" has nothing to do with LGP. LGP can be established well after the customary motion, and any (well, most) foul after that time until the offensive player becomes airborne would then be a PC (or TC) foul.

Looks like I am mistakenly using an NBA interpretation. NFHS reference, please.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

I'm wrong then.



Looks like I am mistakenly using an NBA interpretation. NFHS reference, please.

4-23 Guarding

ART. 4 . . . Guarding an opponent with the ball or a stationary opponent without
the ball:
a. No time or distance is required to obtain an initial legal position.
b. If the opponent with the ball is airborne, the guard must have obtained legal
position before the opponent left the floor.