Mich St / WIS

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

I turned it on right as they waved it off. Bo Ryan was not a happy camper.

True. However, you can't agrue with 5-7-2.

[cmhjordan23]

What exactly is the rule in high school and college when a quarter or period ends? Assuming there is a clock above basket and LED light vs nothing at all.

[deecee]

I don't have my rule book in front of me but I believe the horn signals the end of the period.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by cmhjordan23

What exactly is the rule in high school and college when a quarter or period ends? Assuming there is a clock above basket and LED light vs nothing at all.

Fed: 5-6-2
Each quarter or extra period ends when the signal illuminates or sounds indicating time has expired.

NCAA: 5-7-2
Each period shall end when the red light or LED lights have bcome activated. When the light fails to operate or is not visible, each period shall end with the sounding of the game-clock horn.

a. In games when the red light is not present, the game-clock horn shall terminate players' activity.

b. In games with a 10th-of-a-second game clock display and where an official courtside monitor is used, the reading of zeros on the game is to be used to determine whether a try for goal occurred before or after the expiration of time in any period. When the game clock is no visable, the officials shall verify the original call with the use of the red/LED light(s). WHen the red/LED light(s) are not visable, the sounding of the game-clock horn shall be used. When definitive information is unattainable with the use of the monitor, the orginal call stands.

Originally Posted by deecee

I don't have my rule book in front of me but I believe the horn signals the end of the period.

See above.

[Zoochy]

Sorry deecee, but I cast my vote with the tjones1

[SAJ]

first football and now basketball...great games

[tjones1]

"By rule we have to go by the clock that is on the backboard," Driscoll said. "I don't know why there would be different [times] -- it could be satellite, electronic, whatever -- but by rule we have to go by the clock that is attached to the backboard. In our review on the monitor, the clock clearly showed zeros while the ball remained in the Wisconsin player's hands."

Driscoll said officials looked at the replay approximately seven times, also examining whether Evans' foot was on the 3-point line.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by tjones1

Fed: 5-6-2
Each quarter or extra period ends when the signal illuminates or sounds indicating time has expired.

This rule changed last year, I believe. It used to be that the officials must go by the horn for a quarter's end. Now, if there's a light behind the backboard (LED or single light), we are to consider the light primarily.

There aren't any high school gyms in these parts that have those lights, only the college gyms. Our state's post-season tournaments are held in three different venues, and only one has such lights. (One of those building is being replaced, so here's hoping they think of such lights.)

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by bainsey

This rule changed last year, I believe. It used to be that the officials must go by the horn for a quarter's end. Now, if there's a light behind the backboard (LED or single light), we are to consider the light primarily.

There aren't any high school gyms in these parts that have those lights, only the college gyms. Our state's post-season tournaments are held in three different venues, and only one has such lights. (One of those building is being replaced, so here's hoping they think of such lights.)

I think it was changed two years ago (2009-2010). Mark Sr. will confirm later tonight when he has the opportunity to look in his archives.

[Rufus]

I don't call college so this is largely academic, but can someone explain why the backboard clock/light supersedes the game clock in this situation? I've read the rule posted by tjones and it only says that the LED lights will be used only if the game clock isn't visible. In this case the game clock(s) were visible but disagreed.

I guess the question is, does the first-stated rule - that the red backboard light ends the period - take precedence over the subsection (b) rule?

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by bainsey

This rule changed last year, I believe. It used to be that the officials must go by the horn for a quarter's end. Now, if there's a light behind the backboard (LED or single light), we are to consider the light primarily.

Originally Posted by tjones1

I think it was changed two years ago (2009-2010).

It was indeed '09-'10.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bainsey

There aren't any high school gyms in these parts that have those lights, only the college gyms.

Only one gym, of the seventy high schools that we service, has the lights. I was there last week, and the lights behind only one backboard worked. The lights down the other side were broken.

[Rich]

I was amused with Bo Ryan getting angry and swearing at the officials *after* the replay review. ESPN even pixilated Ryan's mouth during SportsCenter.

I mean, it's one thing to argue with the live event, but with a replay that he hadn't even seen? To the point of losing his temper?

I had a ticket for last night, but couldn't find a sub for my GV game so I ended up eating it (I listed it on StubHub, but had no takers, even at below-face value). Not sad I missed it. The Badgers are in for a long season if they don't remember how to shoot the ball.