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Old Sat Dec 31, 2011, 12:14pm
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Much is made about how TV commentators help fuel ignorance of rules and officiating in general.

Just heard Clark Kellog use legal guarding position during the UK-Louisville game. Brought a to my face. Maybe there is hope yet.
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Old Sat Dec 31, 2011, 12:28pm
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In relation to the other talking heads, CK is about as rule knowledgeable as they come.
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In relation to the other talking heads, CK is about as rule knowledgeable as they come.
OK - that makes 1.
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Old Sat Dec 31, 2011, 12:44pm
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I noted the same comment, however, I think it was in the context of a block/charge, and Clark said, "He wasn't there set in a legal guarding position."

You don't have to be "set" in order to have LGP. For those with a DVR, it is at the 16:55 mark of the first half.
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Old Sat Dec 31, 2011, 02:03pm
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CK is one of my faves. A few years ago, he emphasized on the air, "there is no over the back, it's ON the back." So, yes, there are indeed those that know what they're talking about.
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Old Sat Dec 31, 2011, 02:41pm
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Much is made about how TV commentators help fuel ignorance of rules and officiating in general.

Just heard Clark Kellog use legal guarding position during the UK-Louisville game. Brought a to my face. Maybe there is hope yet.
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CK is one of my faves. A few years ago, he emphasized on the air, "there is no over the back, it's ON the back." So, yes, there are indeed those that know what they're talking about.
Agreed he's up there; however, keep listening to him.
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CK is one of my faves. A few years ago, he emphasized on the air, "there is no over the back, it's ON the back." So, yes, there are indeed those that know what they're talking about.
He's closer, but still wrong.
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CK is one of my faves. A few years ago, he emphasized on the air, "there is no over the back, it's ON the back."
There's no "ON the back" either.
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Old Sat Dec 31, 2011, 04:38pm
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There's no "ON the back" either.
True, though "on" doesn't perpetuate a myth like "over" does.

My son tried to tell me, "it's just slang, Dad." When I pointed out the downfall of this phrase, he asked me what I would call these rebounding fouls.

"Five choices (using a finger for each one): pushing, illegal contact, holding, blocking, or hand checking, whatever applies, though you probably won't see much blocking or hand checking on rebounds. Just pushing and illegal, mostly."

Of course, there could be intentional and flagrant, too. I can't recall ever seeing a double foul on a rebound, though I'm sure it's been done.
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One of the announcers in the Georgetown/Providence game (the lady) stated that there was "continuation" on one of the and1 drives to the basket. Her partner quickly corrected her and stated it was in "the gather" of the try.

Tear came to my eye...
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And on the other half of the spectrum, we have Dan Dakich (during the Indiana/Ohio State game). Referring to a spot throw in: "2 things the inbounder has to know, 1 - he cannot move, or it's a travel."
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And on the other half of the spectrum, we have Dan Dakich (during the Indiana/Ohio State game). Referring to a spot throw in: "2 things the inbounder has to know, 1 - he cannot move, or it's a travel."
I was just about to post this one as well, but I wasn't sure who the announcer to credit with the ignorance was.
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Well to be fair, it doesn't help clarify matters when you see DI officials give the traveling signal for this violation.
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Listen to the commentator on this play from the end of the Wagner @ Santa Clara game.
Should Wagner’s circus fallaway buzzer beater have counted? - The Dagger - NCAABBlog - Yahoo! Sports
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Listen to the commentator on this play from the end of the Wagner @ Santa Clara game.
Should Wagner’s circus fallaway buzzer beater have counted? - The Dagger - NCAABBlog - Yahoo! Sports
...pretty emphatic. My question is, was he right? Is that shot like a field-goal where if the ball passes over even the edge of the post (or, in this case, the corner of the backboard), it's as if it has passed over the full object?
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