Rule 9.9.1 - Throw In Front Court + Tip

[dbking]

the interesting interp to this rule is...

If tipped by B1, who is in the frontcourt, then A1 in frontcourt and retreived by A1 who is in the backcourt, then a violation. The interp says that the throw in ended when touched legally inbounds by B. The exception to the rule ends when B touched the ball.

I will not say that I agree with interp but this is the interp...

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by dbking

the interesting interp to this rule is...

If tipped by B1, who is in the frontcourt, then A1 in frontcourt and retreived by A1 who is in the backcourt, then a violation. The interp says that the throw in ended when touched legally inbounds by B. The exception to the rule ends when B touched the ball.

I will not say that I agree with interp but this is the interp...

There was still no player control in frontcourt. This is not a violation.

[refiator]

Originally Posted by dbking

the interesting interp to this rule is...

If tipped by B1, who is in the frontcourt, then A1 in frontcourt and retreived by A1 who is in the backcourt, then a violation. The interp says that the throw in ended when touched legally inbounds by B. The exception to the rule ends when B touched the ball.

I will not say that I agree with interp but this is the interp...

There is still no control established. The throw in ending has no bearing on establishing control. No violation.

[APG]

Originally Posted by dbking

the interesting interp to this rule is...

If tipped by B1, who is in the frontcourt, then A1 in frontcourt and retreived by A1 who is in the backcourt, then a violation. The interp says that the throw in ended when touched legally inbounds by B. The exception to the rule ends when B touched the ball.

I will not say that I agree with interp but this is the interp...

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

2011-2012 NFHS Basketball Interpretations


SITUATION 5: A1 has the ball for an end-line throw-in in his/her frontcourt. A1’s pass to A2, who is in the frontcourt standing near the division line, is high and deflects off A2’s hand and goes into Team A’s backcourt. A2 is then the first to control the ball in Team A’s backcourt.

RULING: Legal. There is no backcourt violation since player and team control had not yet been established in Team A’s frontcourt before the ball went into Team A’s backcourt. The throw-in ends when A2 legally touches the ball, but the backcourt count does not start until A2 gains control in his/her backcourt. (4-12-2d; 9-9)

The above interpretation covers this. The only thing team control during a throw-in affects is fouls by the throw-in team. We handled every other the EXACT same way.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by dbking

the interesting interp to this rule is...

If tipped by B1, who is in the frontcourt, then A1 in frontcourt and retreived by A1 who is in the backcourt, then a violation. The interp says that the throw in ended when touched legally inbounds by B. The exception to the rule ends when B touched the ball.

I will not say that I agree with interp but this is the interp...

In case you haven't heard, you're mistaken.

Read 9-9-1.

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by dbking

the interesting interp to this rule is...

If tipped by B1, who is in the frontcourt, then A1 in frontcourt and retreived by A1 who is in the backcourt, then a violation. The interp says that the throw in ended when touched legally inbounds by B. The exception to the rule ends when B touched the ball.

I will not say that I agree with interp but this is the interp...

That only works by rule when you have the ball tipped on a throw-in and A2 jumps from the front court, catches the ball, then lands in the back court. Then you have a violation by rule.

[letemplay]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

That only works by rule when you have the ball tipped on a throw-in and A2 jumps from the front court, catches the ball, then lands in the back court. Then you have a violation by rule.

Clarification/comments on this sitch please. Is this the correct ruling for this play?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by letemplay

Clarification/comments on this sitch please. Is this the correct ruling for this play?

There's an exception to the BC rule for a throw-in (and for a jump ball and for a defensive player). A player can jump from the FC, catch the ball and land in the BC without it being a violation. (The "4 requirements" for a BC violation have been met, so without the exception there would be a violation.)

The exception applies only to the first person to touch the ball. So, if the ball is tipped (doesn't matter whether it was tipped by A1 or B1), and then A2 jumps from the FC, catches the ball and lands in the BC, it's now a violation.

[CoachP]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The exception applies only to the first person to touch the ball. So, if the ball is tipped (doesn't matter whether it was tipped by A1 or B1), and then A2 jumps from the FC, catches the ball and lands in the BC, it's now a violation.

So, if the ball is tipped (doesn't matter whether it was tipped by A1 or B1), and then A2 jumps from the FC and lands in the BC and then catches the ball? Or if he never jumped from FC to BC, A2 just happened to be standing in the BC?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by CoachP

So, if the ball is tipped (doesn't matter whether it was tipped by A1 or B1), and then A2 jumps from the FC and lands in the BC and then catches the ball? Or if he never jumped from FC to BC, A2 just happened to be standing in the BC?

Then the 4 requirements haven't been met and there's no violation.

[CoachP]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Then the 4 requirements haven't been met and there's no violation.

Awesome!! That's what I thought...

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

There's an exception to the BC rule for a throw-in (and for a jump ball and for a defensive player). A player can jump from the FC, catch the ball and land in the BC without it being a violation. (The "4 requirements" for a BC violation have been met, so without the exception there would be a violation.)

The exception applies only to the first person to touch the ball. So, if the ball is tipped (doesn't matter whether it was tipped by A1 or B1), and then A2 jumps from the FC, catches the ball and lands in the BC, it's now a violation.

To add, the violation occurs because the throw-in ends when the first player touches the ball. Therefore, the exception ends as well.

[PG_Ref]

Originally Posted by letemplay

Clarification/comments on this sitch please. Is this the correct ruling for this play?

Correct ruling