Captains meeting

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

but do not make it sound like everyone thinks that is respectful to refer to us by our first names.

He didn't. At all.

I introduce myself as Dave. All the kids in Texas seem to use the term "Sir" when speaking to the officials, which is also fine with me.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

And when you introduce yourself as "Mr. Rut" I'll say, "and I'm Rich."

My values are different (not better or worse) than yours.

If your values are no better or worse why do you get a kick out of it?

[mj]

I like to be referred by my first name as I'm not big on titles. I also refer to coaches by their first name but I may be in the minority on doing that in my area. I even look them up prior to the game if I don't know them.


It's what works for me, do what works for you...

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If your values are no better or worse why do you get a kick out of it?

You got me. I think it's stuffy and idiotic. I was being polite.

I've never had a kid use my first name and don't expect to. I wouldn't care if they did, though.

I prefer they respect the shirt by acting the right way on the court. This stuff is just window dressing.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

You got me. I think it's stuffy and idiotic. I was being polite.

I've never had a kid use my first name and don't expect to. I wouldn't care if they did, though.

I prefer they respect the shirt by acting the right way on the court. This stuff is just window dressing.

Guess I work with a lot of idiotic and stuffy people...who spend 6 out of every 24 months in the Middle East and Southwest Asia or who were raised by stuffy and idiotic parents and grand-parents.

[tref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

No child is calling me by my first name. I was not raised that way and I do not even call people that were adults when I was a child by their first name. It is a sign of respect and values IMO.

Peace

I'm guessing "JRut" is acceptable for your college games?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

No child is calling me by my first name. I was not raised that way and I do not even call people that were adults when I was a child by their first name. It is a sign of respect and values IMO.

Peace

Definitely regional. In Iowa, it was like that. Here in CO, it's much less so. My kids, however, are taught to use Mr and Mrs.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Definitely regional. In Iowa, it was like that. Here in CO, it's much less so. My kids, however, are taught to use Mr and Mrs.

Actually this is more cultural. I grew up with a African-American, Southern upbringing. Everyone in my family except for a very small few exceptions were born in the south (Alabama or Florida). And in many cases they went to college in the south as well. So when people referred to my Grandmother as an example they would call her "Miss Ollie" or "Miss Jones" but never Ollie. I will never forget I called someone that was a family friend by his first name and not only did he tell my parents, my mother and father jumped down my throat for doing such.

That to me has nothing to do with where I live now or what others do. I just do not feel kids are in a position to call me by my first name and the way I was always raised. I still value that to this day to the point where my mom is a retired college professor and she will call some of her colleagues who I knew as either kids or when I attended the same university and she will refer to them by their first name and I will not know who she is talking about. Then when she says, "Dr. ......." I then know who she is talking about.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Actually this is more cultural. I grew up with a African-American, Southern upbringing. Everyone in my family except for a very small few exceptions were born in the south (Alabama or Florida). And in many cases they went to college in the south as well. So when people referred to my Grandmother as an example they would call her "Miss Ollie" or "Miss Jones" but never Ollie. I will never forget I called someone that was a family friend by his first name and not only did he tell my parents, my mother and father jumped down my throat for doing such.

That to me has nothing to do with where I live now or what others do. I just do not feel kids are in a position to call me by my first name and the way I was always raised. I still value that to this day to the point where my mom is a retired college professor and she will call some of her colleagues who I knew as either kids or when I attended the same university and she will refer to them by their first name and I will not know who she is talking about. Then when she says, "Dr. ......." I then know who she is talking about.

Peace

I agree it's cultural, and I'll add that while we introduce ourselves here by first name, I've never had a player address me by my name. It's always "ref" or "sir." I'm in a military town now, and the religious make-up would make some think we're in the south if it wasn't for the weather and scenery.

I was raised in a conservative small town in Iowa, and I always referred to adults outside of the school by their first name. I didn't respect them less, but that was our culture.

Our kids, however, always use Mr. or Mrs. (normally with a first name, but with some adults it's the last name.) This is something we picked up from our church in Des Moines, and the trend is even stronger here.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I agree it's cultural, and I'll add that while we introduce ourselves here by first name, I've never had a player address me by my name. It's always "ref" or "sir." I'm in a military town now, and the religious make-up would make some think we're in the south if it wasn't for the weather and scenery.

I was raised in a conservative small town in Iowa, and I always referred to adults outside of the school by their first name. I didn't respect them less, but that was our culture.

Our kids, however, always use Mr. or Mrs. (normally with a first name, but with some adults it's the last name.) This is something we picked up from our church in Des Moines, and the trend is even stronger here.

And I do get that having grew up in rural Illinois. People are usually very respectful and call people by their last name with Mr or Mrs in front. It is when I got to the suburbs or kids from the suburbs of Chicago you do not hear as much of those references. But even in my church I do not know many kids that do not call the adults the way I do. Then again as an official I cannot think of many that call me by first name. Not even college players do that. And I have gotten to the point where I introduce myself with my first and last name not Mr. But they better not call me Jeff. That is not going to be acceptable. Just like I do not refer to coaches by their first name either. I just feel how you talk to people shows a certain level of respect.

Peace

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

No child is calling me by my first name. I was not raised that way and I do not even call people that were adults when I was a child by their first name. It is a sign of respect and values IMO.

Peace

When I left the military, my bosses would say, "Now you can call me Karl or Jeff or whatever their name was."

I always responded, "Yes Sir."

[constable]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I get a kick out of officials who say, "I am Mr. So and So" cause then I step in and say, "I'm Rich."

+1


except I don't call myself Rich.

[BEAREF]

four points to make tonight enjoyable for all involved...

-respect your opponent
-respect the officials
-respect the game
-HAVE FUN

Good Luck!

[Ignats75]

Originally Posted by BEAREF

four points to make tonight enjoyable for all involved...

-respect your opponent
-respect the officials
-respect the game
-HAVE FUN

Good Luck!

HEY! You stole that from me!!!! Or you stole it from the same person I did!!!!

See post 61 of this thread for my pregame script. Its short and sweet and addresses the only that matters, sportsmanship.

Advice on how to handle mouthy players

BRILLIANT!

[BEAREF]

Originally Posted by Ignats75

HEY! You stole that from me!!!! Or you stole it from the same person I did!!!!

See post 61 of this thread for my pregame script. Its short and sweet and addresses the only that matters, sportsmanship.

Advice on how to handle mouthy players

BRILLIANT!

Yes, I am guilty of theft...but it is worth it. I hope you don't mind...