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Old Tue Dec 20, 2011, 08:33am
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Why would you discuss any of this with the captains
Though many of us joke about the time-worn frivolity of "...the black line all the way around", on some floors, given the cross-thatching confusion of all the multiple painted lines, some have indeed found it wise to alert the visitors of, for instance, the red volleyball line four inches inside the actual black out-of-bounds line of the same width (ridiculous engineering common on some of the newer, most expensive multi-use courts). Just a brief mention of that which has, perhaps, confused visiting teams before. Kinda falls into the constructive category of preventative officiating.
Re. the other stuff you mention, I agree.
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Old Tue Dec 20, 2011, 08:38am
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Though many of us joke about the time-worn frivolity of "...the black line all the way around", on some floors, given the cross-thatching confusion of all the multiple painted lines, some have indeed found it wise to alert the visitors of, for instance, the red volleyball line four inches inside the actual black out-of-bounds line of the same width (ridiculous engineering common on some of the newer, most expensive multi-use courts). Just a brief mention of that which has, perhaps, confused visiting teams before. Kinda falls into the constructive category of preventative officiating.
Maybe in a junior high game, but never in a high school game. If they don't know which lines matter, we have a lot more problems to worry about...
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Old Tue Dec 20, 2011, 08:45am
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maybe in a junior high game, but never in a high school game. If they don't know which lines matter, we have a lot more problems to worry about...
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Old Tue Dec 20, 2011, 08:48am
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IMO, the captains meeting should be eliminated. No one would notice. Even so, I have the meeting as directed, but keep it light and short. Essentially, I introduce myself and partner/s, have the players do the same, ask them to play hard and have fun, then get them back to their teams.
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Old Tue Dec 20, 2011, 08:51am
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IMO, the captains meeting should be eliminated. No one would notice. Even so, I have the meeting as directed, but keep it light and short. Essentially, I introduce myself and partner/s, have the players do the same, ask them to play hard and have fun, then get them back to their teams.
I get a kick out of officials who say, "I am Mr. So and So" cause then I step in and say, "I'm Rich."
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Old Tue Dec 20, 2011, 09:11am
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I get a kick out of officials who say, "I am Mr. So and So" cause then I step in and say, "I'm Rich."
I've worked with Mr. So and So, too!
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Old Tue Dec 20, 2011, 06:47pm
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Almost As Bad As Mr. What'shisname ...

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"I am Mr. So and So".
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I've worked with Mr. So and So, too!
So did I. Terrible. Reaches out from his primary coverage area all the time. I have to carry him every game.
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Old Tue Dec 20, 2011, 07:21pm
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My captains meeting:

Introduce yourselves (if they haven't already. Seems to be pretty common practice in my area.)

Coaches, is everyone properly equipped?
Coaches, are you aware of the concussion protocols?
Coaches, let us know full or :30 on timeouts right away so we can let the other coach know.

Players, sportsmanship is key

(To partner) Got anything?

Good luck.

I don't ask for speaking captains. Like others have said, I can't remember who the captains are 9 times out of ten anyway. I have a hard time remembering coaches' names, so I address every coach as "Coach". I can't be wrong that way. If I have a problem with a player, I will go to a coach.

I have no problem with coaches OR players addressing my by my first name. Maybe this is because I'm a young guy (24), so 95% of the coaches I deal with are several years older than me, and I'm not that much older than the players (though it just hit me that I'm ten years older than this year's freshman class).
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Old Tue Dec 20, 2011, 12:23pm
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I get a kick out of officials who say, "I am Mr. So and So" cause then I step in and say, "I'm Rich."
No child is calling me by my first name. I was not raised that way and I do not even call people that were adults when I was a child by their first name. It is a sign of respect and values IMO.

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Old Tue Dec 20, 2011, 12:39pm
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No child is calling me by my first name. I was not raised that way and I do not even call people that were adults when I was a child by their first name. It is a sign of respect and values IMO.

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A sign of your values and what you consider respectful, which is fine. Not everyone shares the same values.
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Old Tue Dec 20, 2011, 01:01pm
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A sign of your values and what you consider respectful, which is fine. Not everyone shares the same values.
I get that, but was commenting only because it sounded like there was something wrong with someone wanting to be referred to by players by their first name. I am not their social equal, they are not calling me by their first name in this setting.

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Old Tue Dec 20, 2011, 12:53pm
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No child is calling me by my first name. I was not raised that way and I do not even call people that were adults when I was a child by their first name. It is a sign of respect and values IMO.

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And when you introduce yourself as "Mr. Rut" I'll say, "and I'm Rich."

My values are different (not better or worse) than yours.
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Old Tue Dec 20, 2011, 01:06pm
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And when you introduce yourself as "Mr. Rut" I'll say, "and I'm Rich."

My values are different (not better or worse) than yours.
I did not say anything about values being better. I said they are not adults and I was not raised to call adults when I was in HS by their first name. Remember Rich you made the point of what you want them to call you. That is fine with me, but do not make it sound like everyone thinks that is respectful to refer to us by our first names. If that is not the case in other aspects of our society, it certainly is not the case here. No big deal if you want to be called Rich. I even refer to coaches as "Coach....." unless I know both of them very very well, which is rare.

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Old Tue Dec 20, 2011, 02:39pm
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And when you introduce yourself as "Mr. Rut" I'll say, "and I'm Rich."

My values are different (not better or worse) than yours.
If your values are no better or worse why do you get a kick out of it?
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Old Tue Dec 20, 2011, 12:55pm
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No child is calling me by my first name. I was not raised that way and I do not even call people that were adults when I was a child by their first name. It is a sign of respect and values IMO.

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I'm guessing "JRut" is acceptable for your college games?
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