Everyone's wish has been granted

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Overnbach

I'm curious, Eagle. Why do you think "Everyone's wish has been granted?" What issue does everyone have with you?

The title has to deal with how when I first started posting on here, I had very few supporters, almost everyone on here wished I would just not worry about anything except the absolute basics of my duties/responsibilities.

It's kind of like an inside joke.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Not buzzing the horn 1 minute before game, not buzzing the 45-sec. or 1 minute horn for intermissions (between quarters), not properly notifying floor officials of bonus/double bonus, not immediately notifying of player DQ'd on 5th foul or doing the 20 sec. countdown on DQ'd players, not keeping track of AP, not paying close attention on who fouled/scored.

Before the new scoreboard was put in, wouldn't buzz the warning horn at 15 seconds remaining in TOs (new board has built-in TO Timer with auto horn).

One of the real biggies: not being neutral/impartial!!!!

My local U was running fine until the minor officials had a timing error that went unnoticed. When the home team lost in the dying seconds...... well, "changes" were made.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by chseagle

The title has to deal with how when I first started posting on here, I had very few supporters, almost everyone on here wished I would just not worry about anything except the absolute basics of my duties/responsibilities.

It's kind of like an inside joke.

The reality is I doubt most people here (including myself) give a darn either way. You get crap here for your positions on things like rules and responsibilities which you clearly are not aware of, not for the fact you can or will work the table in your corner of the country. I doubt many here even care a lick of why you are not working at that position anymore. I cannot believe we are talking about the politics of this issue as if you were so wronged as to who works the table or not. Most of the time your position is very replaceable and if an AD, coach or school board wants to put someone else in that position, not sure why you would be surprised by that decision being made, even if it was not honest. I also recall that you were not paid and it is not like you could not do it somewhere else or at another time.

Peace

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The reality is I doubt most people here (including myself) give a darn either way. You get crap here for your positions on things like rules and responsibilities which you clearly are not aware of, not for the fact you can or will work the table in your corner of the country. I doubt many here even care a lick of why you are not working at that position anymore. I cannot believe we are talking about the politics of this issue as if you were so wronged as to who works the table or not. Most of the time your position is very replaceable and if an AD, coach or school board wants to put someone else in that position, not sure why you would be surprised by that decision being made, even if it was not honest. I also recall that you were not paid and it is not like you could not do it somewhere else or at another time.

Peace

I do not mind being a volunteer, as it would be a cost savings to the school.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The reality is I doubt most people here (including myself) give a darn either way.

Well, it's pretty obvious that you give a darn.

It's a wonder, with people like you here, we ever get any new posters to hang around for any period of time.

P.S. Just a reality check for you, having a firm knowledge of the rules is not a prerequisite for posting here. Actually, quite the contrary. I would hope that we, as a community, would be more welcoming of those who don't know the rules but who have a desire to learn, than to those like you who think they already know everything.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Effective today, we're no longer doing table operations for basketball games. The reasoning behind this is that we're feeling highly under appreciated by being relegated this year to doing only Timer/Scoreboard operations in Gym 2 (JV & C-Squads only).

You can thank the AD for this decision as he doesn't seem to care if the Varsity Table Crew has knowledge of the rules or not.

So the JV and C-Squads just aren't big time enough for you? The JV and C-Squad kids don't deserve quality table officials?

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

So the JV and C-Squads just aren't big time enough for you? The JV and C-Squad kids don't deserve quality table officials?

Dear BktBallRef,

This is your assignor. Due to a number of circumstances, I wanted to let you know that, from now on, I'm only going to be assigning you sub-varsity games, despite your years of experience and superior rules knowledge. We'll still pay you your varsity rate, but you won't be doing varsity contests anymore, which also means you probably won't be in the running to do special tournaments or state tournaments as well.

I hope you'll understand since, after all, the JV and C-squad kids deserve quality officials as well.

Sincerely,

Joe "Your Assignor" Smith

P.S. I also wanted to let you know that Scrappy Jones, the new guy in the association, has just been promoted to do varsity and will be taking over the remainder of your assignments. Yes, I know he's only done a handful of freshman games, but I just think he looks great out there on the court and I've never heard any complaints about him.

[grunewar]

fiasco, I for one don't mind doing rec or sub-V games. The only thing that stops me during the week is the early start times (Job #1 gets in the way).

I like calling ball. Period.

Just me.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by fiasco

Well, it's pretty obvious that you give a darn.

It's a wonder, with people like you here, we ever get any new posters to hang around for any period of time.

P.S. Just a reality check for you, having a firm knowledge of the rules is not a prerequisite for posting here. Actually, quite the contrary. I would hope that we, as a community, would be more welcoming of those who don't know the rules but who have a desire to learn, than to those like you who think they already know everything.

Again you are talking to me when I am not talking to you? Why is that?

Secondly if I cared then why did I not respond earlier when I first noticed the thread?

And since when are you in a position to tell me why and when I can post? You have not even been here for a cup of coffee and you certainly are not in a position to tell me what to post here or anywhere. I do not tell you when to post which is why unless you address me, I do not talk to you at all here. You are worthless here and contribute very little in my opinion and why you have many problems with many here. And when I speak I am using my real name and identity. At least the people that I respect here we talk off of this site from time to time. For the record those individuals mock you often.

Peace

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by grunewar

fiasco, I for one don't mind doing rec or sub-V games. The only thing that stops me during the week is the early start times (Job #1 gets in the way).

I like calling ball. Period.

Just me.

It's not about doing "some" rec or sub-v games. I do them as well. It's about being told you're only going to be doing sub-v games from now on, when you've already demonstrated the capacity to do higher level games, and the person who is replacing you has (according to chseagle) demonstrated a somewhat disturbing lack of rules knowledge and respect for the position.

I would laugh in the face of any varsity official here who wouldn't think it a slap to the face to be told by your assignor that you're only getting sub-v games from now on and would, as BktBallRef insinuated, just be hunky dory with that kind of schedule just because "the kids need good officials." I'd laugh in your face because I'd know you were lying.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

So the JV and C-Squads just aren't big time enough for you? The JV and C-Squad kids don't deserve quality table officials?

How would you feel if after 4-5 years of working B/C Squad games, you were never given a chance to work A-Squad games?

There at the school, I've only done 1 Varsity game (last year due to the regular person being sick). This year the season starts out, the regular person is sick, a new person who does not know the scoreboard or the current rules/regulations is used that is not technically competent enough to do Varsity games first time out would get anyone hot under the collar.

Sure I've done Varsity level games at 3A/4A Regionals & worked the JUCO Tournament, but to be skipped over for a person that is technically not even done any lower level games as table crew, when there's qualified personnel available, is like asking a true blue rookie official (first game ever) to work a rivalry game when there's a 20 year veteran available.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by chseagle

How would you feel if after 4-5 years of working B/C Squad games, you were never given a chance to work A-Squad games?

It happens sometimes.

[Camron Rust]

Maybe he'll eventually figure out that the criteria for getting the clock gig on the main game is not necessarily skill or interest. Like many things in life, there are clearly other factors at play....a friend of the AD/Coach/etc. Maybe someone who does a decent job and doesn't irritate the AD/coach with endless minutiae.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Sure I've done Varsity level games at 3A/4A Regionals & worked the JUCO Tournament, but to be skipped over for a person that is technically not even done any lower level games as table crew, when there's qualified personnel available, is like asking a true blue rookie official (first game ever) to work a rivalry game when there's a 20 year veteran available.

No, it's not.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Welpe

It happens sometimes.

I was using that as an example.

The point is that, I know the ins & outs of the new scoreboard as well as the new rules/regulations, the AD knows my qualifications, yet he chose a person with little/no experience to be Varsity Timer/Scoreboard.

I have no qualms about doing JV & C-Squad games, it's just that how the AD responded is that I may as well be a leper that he wants to keep hiden in a closet by forcing me to remain in the auxilary gym, even though I have the training & experience, as I have previously proven to him that I can handle the main gym.