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Old Mon Dec 19, 2011, 07:40pm
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Everyone's wish has been granted

Effective today, we're no longer doing table operations for basketball games. The reasoning behind this is that we're feeling highly under appreciated by being relegated this year to doing only Timer/Scoreboard operations in Gym 2 (JV & C-Squads only).

You can thank the AD for this decision as he doesn't seem to care if the Varsity Table Crew has knowledge of the rules or not.
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Old Mon Dec 19, 2011, 08:08pm
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That's too bad-good table people are hard to find.
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Old Mon Dec 19, 2011, 08:45pm
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That's too bad-good table people are hard to find.
Thanks for the vote of confidence.

It wasn't just me they lost. They lost the whole family, so not only minus a few table officials, but also minus a couple of security/crowd control.
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Old Mon Dec 19, 2011, 08:46pm
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Old Mon Dec 19, 2011, 08:50pm
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Old Mon Dec 19, 2011, 09:07pm
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What issues does the crew handling games in your main gym have in terms of rules knowledge? Kind of curious to see the difference between the crew I work on and your main gym crew!
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Old Tue Dec 20, 2011, 01:54pm
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Effective today, we're no longer doing table operations for basketball games. The reasoning behind this is that we're feeling highly under appreciated by being relegated this year to doing only Timer/Scoreboard operations in Gym 2 (JV & C-Squads only).

You can thank the AD for this decision as he doesn't seem to care if the Varsity Table Crew has knowledge of the rules or not.
So the JV and C-Squads just aren't big time enough for you? The JV and C-Squad kids don't deserve quality table officials?
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Old Tue Dec 20, 2011, 01:59pm
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So the JV and C-Squads just aren't big time enough for you? The JV and C-Squad kids don't deserve quality table officials?
Dear BktBallRef,

This is your assignor. Due to a number of circumstances, I wanted to let you know that, from now on, I'm only going to be assigning you sub-varsity games, despite your years of experience and superior rules knowledge. We'll still pay you your varsity rate, but you won't be doing varsity contests anymore, which also means you probably won't be in the running to do special tournaments or state tournaments as well.

I hope you'll understand since, after all, the JV and C-squad kids deserve quality officials as well.

Sincerely,

Joe "Your Assignor" Smith

P.S. I also wanted to let you know that Scrappy Jones, the new guy in the association, has just been promoted to do varsity and will be taking over the remainder of your assignments. Yes, I know he's only done a handful of freshman games, but I just think he looks great out there on the court and I've never heard any complaints about him.
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Old Tue Dec 20, 2011, 02:02pm
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fiasco, I for one don't mind doing rec or sub-V games. The only thing that stops me during the week is the early start times (Job #1 gets in the way).

I like calling ball. Period.

Just me.
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Old Tue Dec 20, 2011, 02:06pm
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fiasco, I for one don't mind doing rec or sub-V games. The only thing that stops me during the week is the early start times (Job #1 gets in the way).

I like calling ball. Period.

Just me.
It's not about doing "some" rec or sub-v games. I do them as well. It's about being told you're only going to be doing sub-v games from now on, when you've already demonstrated the capacity to do higher level games, and the person who is replacing you has (according to chseagle) demonstrated a somewhat disturbing lack of rules knowledge and respect for the position.

I would laugh in the face of any varsity official here who wouldn't think it a slap to the face to be told by your assignor that you're only getting sub-v games from now on and would, as BktBallRef insinuated, just be hunky dory with that kind of schedule just because "the kids need good officials." I'd laugh in your face because I'd know you were lying.
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Old Tue Dec 20, 2011, 04:46pm
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I would laugh in the face of any varsity official here who wouldn't think it a slap to the face to be told by your assignor that you're only getting sub-v games from now on and would, as BktBallRef insinuated, just be hunky dory with that kind of schedule just because "the kids need good officials." I'd laugh in your face because I'd know you were lying.
You must not have been as good as you thought you were. That usually does not happen without reason.

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Old Tue Dec 20, 2011, 06:59pm
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I for one don't mind doing sub-V games. The only thing that stops me during the week is the early start times (Job #1 gets in the way). I like calling ball. Period. Just me.
Retirement from my day job as a chemist is eight years away. When that time comes, I hope that I'm healthy enough to work high school freshman (4:00 p.m.) and middle school games (3:30 p.m.). Those games could use good officials, and the young, and rookie, officials working them could use good mentors. I can't be working high school varsity games the rest of my life. For some reason, and the mathematics involved escapes me, the kids stay the same age as I get older. Is that fair?
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Retirement from my day job as a chemist is eight years away. When that time comes, I hope that I'm healthy enough to work high school freshman (4:00 p.m.) and middle school games (3:30 p.m.). Those games could use good officials, and the young, and rookie, officials working them could use good mentors. I can't be working high school varsity games the rest of my life. For some reason, and the mathematics involved escapes me, the kids stay the same age as I get older. Is that fair?
You don't really want to stay the same age, do you?
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Old Tue Dec 20, 2011, 07:06pm
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Retirement from my day job as a chemist is eight years away. When that time comes, I hope that I'm healthy enough to work high school freshman (4:00 p.m.) and middle school games (3:30 p.m.). Those games could use good officials, and the young, and rookie, officials working them could use good mentors. I can't be working high school varsity games the rest of my life. For some reason, and the mathematics involved escapes me, the kids stay the same age as I get older. Is that fair?
+1 - the retirement from chemist. Oh and for sure not fair
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Old Tue Dec 20, 2011, 02:11pm
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So the JV and C-Squads just aren't big time enough for you? The JV and C-Squad kids don't deserve quality table officials?
How would you feel if after 4-5 years of working B/C Squad games, you were never given a chance to work A-Squad games?

There at the school, I've only done 1 Varsity game (last year due to the regular person being sick). This year the season starts out, the regular person is sick, a new person who does not know the scoreboard or the current rules/regulations is used that is not technically competent enough to do Varsity games first time out would get anyone hot under the collar.

Sure I've done Varsity level games at 3A/4A Regionals & worked the JUCO Tournament, but to be skipped over for a person that is technically not even done any lower level games as table crew, when there's qualified personnel available, is like asking a true blue rookie official (first game ever) to work a rivalry game when there's a 20 year veteran available.
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