Everyone's wish has been granted

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

So the JV and C-Squads just aren't big time enough for you? The JV and C-Squad kids don't deserve quality table officials?

How would you feel if after 4-5 years of working B/C Squad games, you were never given a chance to work A-Squad games?

There at the school, I've only done 1 Varsity game (last year due to the regular person being sick). This year the season starts out, the regular person is sick, a new person who does not know the scoreboard or the current rules/regulations is used that is not technically competent enough to do Varsity games first time out would get anyone hot under the collar.

Sure I've done Varsity level games at 3A/4A Regionals & worked the JUCO Tournament, but to be skipped over for a person that is technically not even done any lower level games as table crew, when there's qualified personnel available, is like asking a true blue rookie official (first game ever) to work a rivalry game when there's a 20 year veteran available.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by chseagle

How would you feel if after 4-5 years of working B/C Squad games, you were never given a chance to work A-Squad games?

It happens sometimes.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Welpe

It happens sometimes.

I was using that as an example.

The point is that, I know the ins & outs of the new scoreboard as well as the new rules/regulations, the AD knows my qualifications, yet he chose a person with little/no experience to be Varsity Timer/Scoreboard.

I have no qualms about doing JV & C-Squad games, it's just that how the AD responded is that I may as well be a leper that he wants to keep hiden in a closet by forcing me to remain in the auxilary gym, even though I have the training & experience, as I have previously proven to him that I can handle the main gym.

[26 Year Gap]

[ga314ref]

Originally Posted by chseagle

I was using that as an example.

The point is that, I know the ins & outs of the new scoreboard as well as the new rules/regulations, the AD knows my qualifications, yet he chose a person with little/no experience to be Varsity Timer/Scoreboard.

I have no qualms about doing JV & C-Squad games, it's just that how the AD responded is that I may as well be a leper that he wants to keep hiden in a closet by forcing me to remain in the auxilary gym, even though I have the training & experience, as I have previously proven to him that I can handle the main gym.

...but I understand your need to vent. It sounds like you take pride in what you do, have worked at being good at it, and feels that merits some recognition, part of which would be having you work at a higher level. It may seem trivial to others, but you feel what you do is important to the game, and you're right; it is. You're part of the officiating crew, and the more competent all the members of the crew are, the less likely it is we're going to have that night from hell.

Even for officials, sometimes it's necessary to move on to where you're valued and appreciated, and will get the opportunity you're working for. I hope it works out.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by ga314ref

...but I understand your need to vent. It sounds like you take pride in what you do, have worked at being good at it, and feels that merits some recognition, part of which would be having you work at a higher level. It may seem trivial to others, but you feel what you do is important to the game, and you're right; it is. You're part of the officiating crew, and the more competent all the members of the crew are, the less likely it is we're going to have that night from hell.

Even for officials, sometimes it's necessary to move on to where you're valued and appreciated, and will get the opportunity you're working for. I hope it works out.

The issue at hand is that I've been doing table operations in both gyms for the past couple of years with no issues & now for some unknown reason, am being pushed into working only in the auxilary gym.

The information I pass on about recommendations is to help the others get better, it's just that how can the others learn if they do not see someone applying those recommendations & experiencing first hand what is being asked. I've tried coaching/training one on one & it seems to have fallen on deaf ears as if they do not care if doing things wrong or not.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by ga314ref

...but I understand your need to vent. It sounds like you take pride in what you do, have worked at being good at it, and feels that merits some recognition, part of which would be having you work at a higher level. It may seem trivial to others, but you feel what you do is important to the game, and you're right; it is. You're part of the officiating crew, and the more competent all the members of the crew are, the less likely it is we're going to have that night from hell.

Even for officials, sometimes it's necessary to move on to where you're valued and appreciated, and will get the opportunity you're working for. I hope it works out.

One of the primary reasons why I am so upset is due to the fact, that like I have stated previously, I have doing table operations in both gyms for the past couple of years. I have been doing table operations in gym 1 during the MS.JH Boys' Games this year, & when the HS season started all of a sudden am basically pushed out of gym 1 without any explanation or asking.

The first home game (December 12th) the regular Varsity timer/scoreboard was out sick & I was not even asked if I wanted to do Varsity timer. Same thing happened again on Saturday.

The AD knew I was there, yet he acted like I didn't exsist.

[Camron Rust]

Maybe he'll eventually figure out that the criteria for getting the clock gig on the main game is not necessarily skill or interest. Like many things in life, there are clearly other factors at play....a friend of the AD/Coach/etc. Maybe someone who does a decent job and doesn't irritate the AD/coach with endless minutiae.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Sure I've done Varsity level games at 3A/4A Regionals & worked the JUCO Tournament, but to be skipped over for a person that is technically not even done any lower level games as table crew, when there's qualified personnel available, is like asking a true blue rookie official (first game ever) to work a rivalry game when there's a 20 year veteran available.

No, it's not.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

No, it's not.

Again was using an example

[just another ref]

Here's the biggest problem I see, eagle. Most of us have been passed over in favor of someone else in in our lives, in basketball or elsewhere, some well justified, some not so much. When this happens, an e-mail to the assignor from you pointing out the shortcomings of the one who was chosen instead of you, is unlikely to help achieve the final desired result.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by fiasco

Dear BktBallRef,....blah,blah,blah...lots of bull$hit.....blah,blah,blah,....more bull$hit......blah,blah,blah,....any complaints about him.

Thank fiasco, for once again pointing out nothing.

If and when I get that call from an assignor, and I'm unhappy about it, I WON'T be whining about it on an Internet discussion board.

BTW, keep in mind we're hearing ONE side of the story here.

Originally Posted by chseagle

How would you feel if after 4-5 years of working B/C Squad games, you were never given a chance to work A-Squad games?

There at the school, I've only done 1 Varsity game (last year due to the regular person being sick). This year the season starts out, the regular person is sick, a new person who does not know the scoreboard or the current rules/regulations is used that is not technically competent enough to do Varsity games first time out would get anyone hot under the collar.

Sure I've done Varsity level games at 3A/4A Regionals & worked the JUCO Tournament, but to be skipped over for a person that is technically not even done any lower level games as table crew, when there's qualified personnel available, is like asking a true blue rookie official (first game ever) to work a rivalry game when there's a 20 year veteran available.

Perhaps you'e not as good as you think you are.

Perhaps you overstep your boundaries and stick your nose into parts of the table administration that are not your concern.

Perhaps they were hoping you would quit or stop doing the things you were doing that made you an irritant.

Perhaps they got tired of waiting.

Perhaps there are other reasons they chose the other person over you.

In fact, I'm 100% sure of it.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

...didn't you get the memo...BBR (Tony the Tiger) knows EVERYTHING!

Yes I did, but I spit my gum out in it.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Yes, but you're letting this stop you from doing something you obviously enjoy. Be the bigger man, continue to work and if it's meant to be, then eventually it'll come to you. Don't quit because your feelings or hurt. if you do, it'll just prove the AD was right not to promote you.

He who is without sin shall cast the 1st stone

I am upset over the situation as this seems to be what always happens to me, I apply all I have & yet I get passed over for those with less experience/training/knowledge.

I am currently waiting for a response back from the Principal &/or superintendent. I am currently not dealing with the AD as it seems that to him I am not visible.

[JRutledge]

Honestly I am still trying to figure out why this thread is even allowed as it has nothing to do with officiating. This is a personal issue with a volunteer. Who cares that he/she was not asked to continue that position. Good Lord all of us have been passed over for something and you do not see others coming here whining about it.

Peace