Should I Have Been More Patient?

[Adam]

You tried to warn him. Even without the hand wave, making that comment immediately after being warned should earn him a T.

If he wants to question that, "Coach, I had just warned you, and you proceeded to question my integrity."

I have no problem with discussing this with a coach in this type of setting as long as he's polite and respectful (I just did it last week when a coach asked why he didn't get a foul call when his shooter jumped into a defender rather than pull up for a last second 10 foot shot trailing by 1), they might learn something. If he continues with the "other officials" garbage, shut the conversation down, "Coach, I answered why I called it, I don't think there's anything else to discuss." Do it all professionally and respectfully, of course.

[JRutledge]

I am not big on the "wave" T that so many love to use. I think that just takes away thinking as to what other things are said and done. I have no problem with the T, but I hope there was more to it than the "wave."

Then again I am less tolerant of coaches at that level. Coaches need to coach their kids and not us more so at that level.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am not big on the "wave" T that so many love to use. I think that just takes away thinking as to what other things are said and done. I have no problem with the T, but I hope there was more to it than the "wave."

Then again I am less tolerant of coaches at that level. Coaches need to coach their kids and not us more so at that level.

Peace

I hate when a coach asks a question and then when I try to answer, he essentially tells me to get away from him and leave him alone. When the wave is used that way, it pretty much shuts down communication for the evening.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I hate when a coach asks a question and then when I try to answer, he essentially tells me to get away from him and leave him alone. When the wave is used that way, it pretty much shuts down communication for the evening.

I agree with that totally. They can do things that will essentially have me stop talking to them. I usually tell them "You have forfeited your right to discuss anything with me." I am not saying I will ignore the wave, just may not result in a T. It might lead to a T eventually, but not the spark that started the fire. Actually I give a lot of Ts for things that have nothing to do with the final act, but the accumulation of multiple things.

Peace

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Actually I give a lot of Ts for things that have nothing to do with the final act, but the accumulation of multiple things.

Peace

+1

Conversely, I give players Ts for partial acts. For instance, if I hear "That call was bull..." it doesn't matter what else they say. I wouldn't hear the rest anyway over the sound of my whistle.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by tomegun

+1

Conversely, I give players Ts for partial acts. For instance, if I hear "That call was bull..." it doesn't matter what else they say. I wouldn't hear the rest anyway over the sound of my whistle.

Hey that was my first T of the year this past Friday. Close game too so you can imagine at how happy the coach was with his player for that one.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by tomegun

+1

Conversely, I give players Ts for partial acts. For instance, if I hear "That call was bull..." it doesn't matter what else they say. I wouldn't hear the rest anyway over the sound of my whistle.

What Harvey Dahl said in yesterday's Rams game would draw a T from you!?

A classic!

I didn't post the link as he clearly dropped the F Bomb to a national TV audience over the official's open mike........

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by grunewar

What Harvey Dahl said in yesterday's Rams game would draw a T from you!?

I'm not sure what you are talking about, but if a kid uses profanity while showing his disgust with a call, yes it will get a T.

[tref]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I hate when a coach asks a question and then when I try to answer, he essentially tells me to get away from him and leave him alone. When the wave is used that way, it pretty much shuts down communication for the evening.

+1

I agree, dont ask me about my no-call or why that wasnt a travel after you've waved me off.

[BktBallRef]

A wave off may not get a T. A remark may not get a T. Yelling may not get a T.
Being out of the coaching box may not get a T. Rolling a travel may not get a T.

Any combination of two will always get a T.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

A wave off may not get a T. A remark may not get a T. Yelling may not get a T.
Being out of the coaching box may not get a T. Rolling a travel may not get a T.

Any combination of two will always get a T.

Yelling "travel" while making the motion always gets a T from you??

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by fiasco

Yelling "travel" while making the motion always gets a T from you??

The traveling thing is an example of showing officials up with his movements and actions.

The point is I can ignore one infraction but if he's going to do 2 or 3 things he shouldn't be doing, he's getting what he's asked for.