Feel free to pile on

[fullor30]

Good ref friend who i kid about not knowing rules texts me with the following
And I quote,

"a1 shoots and ball goes out of play, A2 bumps b2 , what do you have?

I asked him to define 'bump' I asked if contact enough to be worthy of a foul during a live ball to which he said yes.

He claims since it's a dead ball, it has to be called a flagrant t . Told him to read 10.3.7 casebook

Fire away!

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Good ref friend who i kid about not knowing rules texts me with the following
And I quote,

"a1 shoots and ball goes out of play, A2 bumps b2 , what do you have?

I asked him to define 'bump' I asked if contact enough to be worthy of a foul during a live ball to which he said yes.

He claims since it's a dead ball, it has to be called a flagrant t . Told him to read 10.3.7 casebook

Fire away!

Is he a good friend, a good ref, or both?

[Rob1968]

The way I understand such a situation is: if the contact would not be worthy of an intentional or flagrant foul call, if the ball was live, ignore it, when the ball is dead. Maybe a word or two to the proposed offender is in line, to prevent escalation and/or retaliation.
Have your friend look at the last sentence in 4-19-3, which talks aboput the severity of an act that might be deemed intentional. And then have him read 4-19-4, regarding a flagrant foul.

[JRutledge]

Do I know him?

Peace

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Do I know him?

Peace

I seriously doubt it, not from your neck of the woods, more of a local guy.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by fullor30

I seriously doubt it, not from your neck of the woods, more of a local guy.

What do you consider a local guy? I was in Dundee just this week and Cary last week. I work all over the place and have worked at least one game in every conference in the "Chicago area." You might be surprised who I know.

Peace

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Good ref friend who i kid about not knowing rules texts me with the following
And I quote,

"a1 shoots and ball goes out of play, A2 bumps b2 , what do you have?

I asked him to define 'bump' I asked if contact enough to be worthy of a foul during a live ball to which he said yes.

He claims since it's a dead ball, it has to be called a flagrant t . Told him to read 10.3.7 casebook

Fire away!

You asked the wrong question.

You should have asked, would the contact warrant an intentional or flagrant foul during a live ball?

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

What do you consider a local guy? I was in Dundee just this week and Cary last week. I work all over the place and have worked at least one game in every conference in the "Chicago area." You might be surprised who I know.

Peace

He really doesn't get out of his area and doesn't know as many officials as you or I. I'm also mnot going tom throw him under the bus.......he's a good guy (just misinformed!)

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

You asked the wrong question.

You should have asked, would the contact warrant an intentional or flagrant foul during a live ball?

I did think about that, but texting sometimes limits your writing style. You're correct, that would be better.

[fullor30]

[QUOTE=fullor30;806036]He really doesn't get out of his area and doesn't know as many officials as you or I. I also want to keep him anonymous as not to embarass him.....he is after all, a friend(a misinformed one at that!)

[fullor30]

He really doesn't get out of his area and doesn't know as many officials as you or I. I'm also going to keep it anonymous as I don't want to embarass him.

Maybe catch you at next social

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by fullor30

He really doesn't get out of his area and doesn't know as many officials as you or I. I'm also going to keep it anonymous as I don't want to embarass him.

Maybe catch you at next social

I was being a little sarcastic about you giving me his name. I would not expect you to tell me who that was or where he was from here. Heck we all make mistakes or misconstrue rules over the course of our career.

Peace

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by fullor30

I did think about that, but texting sometimes limits your writing style. You're correct, that would be better.

Or autocorrect completely screws it up!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Or autocorrect completely screws it up!

I afresh

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I afresh

Metro.