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Old Wed Dec 14, 2011, 03:02pm
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Without mentioning any names, suggest to your association that this general topic be part of the training for next year.
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Old Wed Dec 14, 2011, 03:09pm
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Without mentioning any names, suggest to your association that this general topic be part of the training for next year.
Will do...

What I learned (already knew) was that I need to speak up when I dont agree with something said in pregame, no matter who says it!!

It was a very uncomfortable night of sleep, I felt as though I sold my soul! Watching the film today, we were pretty f'ing consistent, consistently wrong on 3 b/c plays that is
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Old Wed Dec 14, 2011, 03:38pm
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I would call my game and move on.
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Old Thu Dec 15, 2011, 09:45am
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[QUOTE=tref;804743]What I learned (already knew) was that I need to speak up when I dont agree with something said in pregame, no matter who says it!![QUOTE]

If the guy has "major cred" witht he coaches, it's not going to be an issue for you or the crew, and the rest of the story from that game seems to bear that out. People like that are not going to change their minds or opinions if you "speak your mind" in a pre-game. It is really, really hard to change others unless they are open to it. Even if they are 100% wrong, unless they are aware that they are penalized for doing so, either by their assignments or respect from partners/coaches, they will never change, and you get nothing in return for your efforts.

Officiating is supposed to be black and white, but like life, it never really is. The question you pose is great: what should I do in that situation. Unfortunately, there is no best answer. Sounds like you should just call the rule book and live with the inconsistency. Nobody goes out there and tries to do the wrong thing: by trying to be consistent you would be doing what you think is wrong per the rule book. At least you will then feel good about yourself, and have controlled what you can.
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Old Wed Dec 14, 2011, 02:54pm
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So... HS pregame, your partners states that he "doesnt like defenders sliding under the rim to take charges. It causes many injuries to the airborne shooter." So he will be calling that play like an arc play

Of course you dont agree, but when he makes 2 calls like this against the home team in the 4th Q what do you do when the same play is presented to you at the other end?

- Similar play, similar call, for game consistency sake?
- Call it by the HS book & give the perception of screwing the home team for the 3rd consecutive time on both ends of the floor?
Maybe you should tell him that too many offensive players are driving into a spot that they should not be driving into and causing injuries so you're going to call them all charges.
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Old Thu Dec 15, 2011, 12:15am
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So... HS pregame, your partners states that he "doesnt like defenders sliding under the rim to take charges. It causes many injuries to the airborne shooter." So he will be calling that play like an arc play
My response: "Are you talking about a defender who slides in AFTER the shooter has left the floor? - which is a block - or are you talking about a defender who has established LGP under the rim - which would be a charge?

Partner: "Both."

My response: "OK. Can I ask what other rules you aren't going to follow tonight? 3pt line? 5 players for each team? Traveling?"........

then I would wait for his lame excuse...and go work the game like I normally do.

when a coach complains to me that my call wasn't consistent with the previous call, i would just him "that was clearly a charge. feel free to talk to my partner about his calls. he'll be happy to give you his explanation".
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