What would you do?

tref · #1 (**permalink**) Wed Dec 14, 2011, 01:59pm

So... HS pregame, your partners states that he "doesnt like defenders sliding under the rim to take charges. It causes many injuries to the airborne shooter." So he will be calling that play like an arc play

Of course you dont agree, but when he makes 2 calls like this against the home team in the 4th Q what do you do when the same play is presented to you at the other end?

- Similar play, similar call, for game consistency sake?
- Call it by the HS book & give the perception of screwing the home team for the 3rd consecutive time on both ends of the floor?

fiasco · #2 (**permalink**) Wed Dec 14, 2011, 02:05pm

In the pregame when he said that, I'd be telling him that I'm going to call it the way the book says, and if he wants to deviate from the rules, he's going to have a lot of explaining to do with the coach.

just another ref · #3 (**permalink**) Wed Dec 14, 2011, 02:09pm

If your partner jumped off the Empire State Building, would you jump off the Empire State Building?

fiasco · #4 (**permalink**) Wed Dec 14, 2011, 02:17pm

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If your partner jumped off the Empire State Building, would you jump off the Empire State Building?

Wait, I thought it was supposed to be a bridge. I don't have my parenting manual with me.

bainsey · #5 (**permalink**) Wed Dec 14, 2011, 02:30pm

I'd probably just let it go and let him talk.

Unless I'm missing something, "sliding under the rim" implies trying to obtain LGP after the shooter leaves the floor. By the rules, it's a blocking foul, anyway.

Now, if he means before the shooter leaves the floor, we have a problem. In that case, I'll likely say something, and review that rule.

fiasco · #6 (**permalink**) Wed Dec 14, 2011, 02:40pm

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"sliding under the rim" implies trying to obtain LGP after the shooter leaves the floor.

How so? It mentions nothing about the offensive player.

mbyron · #7 (**permalink**) Thu Dec 15, 2011, 08:49am

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Wait, I thought it was supposed to be a bridge. I don't have my parenting manual with me.

It's in the IAABO parenting manual.

BillyMac · #8 (**permalink**) Wed Dec 14, 2011, 06:38pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref

If your partner jumped off the Empire State Building, would you jump off the Empire State Building?

Hi Mom.

just another ref · #9 (**permalink**) Thu Dec 15, 2011, 02:00am

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Hi Mom.

So sorry. Had no idea your mother had jumped off the Empire State Building.

Mark Padgett · #10 (**permalink**) Thu Dec 15, 2011, 08:32pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref

If your partner jumped off the Empire State Building, would you jump off the Empire State Building?

Many, many years ago, I saw the Smothers Brothers in Las Vegas. Dickie asked Tommy, "If everyone else jumped off a cliff, would you jump off a cliff, too?" Tommy replied, "Hunh - not again".

Toren · #11 (**permalink**) Wed Dec 14, 2011, 02:14pm

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Originally Posted by tref

So... HS pregame, your partners states that he "doesnt like defenders sliding under the rim to take charges. It causes many injuries to the airborne shooter." So he will be calling that play like an arc play

Of course you dont agree, but when he makes 2 calls like this against the home team in the 4th Q what do you do when the same play is presented to you at the other end?

- Similar play, similar call, for game consistency sake?
- Call it by the HS book & give the perception of screwing the home team for the 3rd consecutive time on both ends of the floor?

"Never mimic my kicked call"...I'm trying to get plays right.

With that said, if it's a 50/50 type call, I might lean toward the block in that case so home team isn't screwed. But if it's clearly a charge, the home team got screwed 2 times by my partner and 1 by the player who decided to charge in.

Out of curiosity, how did you handle what he said in pregame?

tref · #12 (**permalink**) Wed Dec 14, 2011, 02:41pm

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Out of curiosity, how did you handle what he said in pregame?

I was shocked & really didnt know what to say as he is the guy in our association as well as one of my jucos.
I just prayed that 1. We wouldnt have that situation 2. I got the first b/c call
Unfortunately, I went 0-2 in the prayer dept

just another ref · #13 (**permalink**) Wed Dec 14, 2011, 02:51pm

It could be worse. I actually had a partner once say, and yes, this is a direct quote: "I take care of the home team, because that's where you get your money."

JugglingReferee · #14 (**permalink**) Wed Dec 14, 2011, 02:53pm

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Originally Posted by tref

So... HS pregame, your partners states that he "doesnt like defenders sliding under the rim to take charges. It causes many injuries to the airborne shooter." So he will be calling that play like an arc play

Of course you dont agree, but when he makes 2 calls like this against the home team in the 4th Q what do you do when the same play is presented to you at the other end?

- Similar play, similar call, for game consistency sake?
- Call it by the HS book & give the perception of screwing the home team for the 3rd consecutive time on both ends of the floor?

"I'm just going to call the game according to the rules. Your ruling is not supported. I won't defend your call."

An official that makes up these things like the one above is throwing the crew under the bus.

tref · #15 (**permalink**) Wed Dec 14, 2011, 02:56pm

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"I'm just going to call the game according to the rules. Your ruling is not supported. I won't defend your call."

He had major cred with both coaches, they never said a word to him. And when they looked his way, he simply did the MJ vs. Portland shrug (big ol' bucket) & they looked away.