Foul during a shot, then foul on a rebound

[JS 20]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Why would you think it's a double foul?

I was thinking logically, not that by definition it was a double foul.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It is a false double foul and each of these fouls are treated individually and carry their own penalty.

Peace

Can't have a false double here because the fouls were commited by players on opposing teams. False double occurs when there are fouls by teammates on different opponents

[APG]

Originally Posted by JS 20

Can't have a false double here because the fouls were commited by players on opposing teams. False double occurs when there are fouls by teammates on different opponents

Nope it's a false double foul:

Rule, Section 20
ART. 9 . . . A false double foul is a situation in which there are fouls by both teams, the second of which occurs before the clock is started following the first, and such that at least one of the attributes of a double foul is absent.

You had fouls by both teams and one attribute of a double foul (fouls committed by opponents against each other) is absent.

[JS 20]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Nope it's a false double foul:

Rule, Section 20
ART. 9 . . . A false double foul is a situation in which there are fouls by both teams, the second of which occurs before the clock is started following the first, and such that at least one of the attributes of a double foul is absent.

You had fouls by both teams and one attribute of a double foul (fouls committed by opponents against each other) is absent.

You're right. My bad on that, I read it wrong in the book.

So then to proceed, they would shoot 3 for the first foul with an empty lane, then go to the other end and shoot 1+1 with the lane occupied? Or would you shoot 1+1 with an empty lane and go POI (arrow since the ball was in flight and try was unsuccessful)?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by JS 20

You're right. My bad on that, I read it wrong in the book.

So then to proceed, they would shoot 3 for the first foul with an empty lane, then go to the other end and shoot 1+1 with the lane occupied? Or would you shoot 1+1 with an empty lane and go POI (arrow since the ball was in flight and try was unsuccessful)?

What are the times to go to the POI (4-POI)? How are (All?) false double fouls handled?

[JS 20]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

What are the times to go to the POI (4-POI)? How are (All?) false double fouls handled?

You tell me, bob. That's why I asked on the forum in hopes of getting an answer.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by JS 20

You tell me, bob. That's why I asked on the forum in hopes of getting an answer.

To be clear, my answer was given in the "teach a man to fish" spirit.

[Nevadaref]

We just had a similar thread.
Depending upon the timing of the fouls, this should be administered as either a simultaneous foul or a false double foul. POI would be used for resuming after a simultaneous foul, but would not be a factor for a false double.

[APG]

Originally Posted by JS 20

You're right. My bad on that, I read it wrong in the book.

So then to proceed, they would shoot 3 for the first foul with an empty lane, then go to the other end and shoot 1+1 with the lane occupied? Or would you shoot 1+1 with an empty lane and go POI (arrow since the ball was in flight and try was unsuccessful)?

You would do the former...enforce the fouls in the order that they occur.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by JS 20

I was thinking logically, not that by definition it was a double foul.



Can't have a false double here because the fouls were commited by players on opposing teams. False double occurs when there are fouls by teammates on different opponents

You need to read your definitions. Rule 4 is the most important rule for a reason.

Peace