Another TO question

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Yep, they should instead charge the TO and the violation.

Problem is that technically we'd be ruling something a violation that had not occurred yet when the whistle had blown.

I look at it just like the correctable error rule, the price for the OFFICIAL being wrong ends up hurting one team and we need to get the play right in the first place or live with the rule book consequences.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Problem is that technically we'd be ruling something a violation that had not accorded yet when the whistle had blown.

I look at it just like the correctable error rule, the price for the OFFICIAL being wrong ends up hurting one team and we need to get the play right in the first place or live with the rule book consequences.

I think they should just charge the timeout. That would be the fair ruling rather than letting them keep the ball and the timeout.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Problem is that technically we'd be ruling something a violation that had not occurred yet when the whistle had blown.

I look at it just like the correctable error rule, the price for the OFFICIAL being wrong ends up hurting one team and we need to get the play right in the first place or live with the rule book consequences.

The actual rule punishes the team for a violation that hasn't yet happened but is imminent. I see no reason they can't punish the team for making the request. At the very least, as Camron suggests, grant and charge the TO on the whistle.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The actual rule punishes the team for a violation that hasn't yet happened but is imminent. I see no reason they can't punish the team for making the request. At the very least, as Camron suggests, grant and charge the TO on the whistle.

Then there would be no purpose for the rule.

One of those situations where the onus is on the officials to know the situation. You know, like how we say the onus is on the coaches to know if they have time-outs or should be shooting free throws or whether the coaches sent the right amount of players back on the court after a time-out.

[refiator]

I'd like to see a rule change in NHSF requiring possession of the ball with at least one foot on the floor for a time-out to be granted.