Varisty coach knows the rule #1

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by deecee

Ripe opportunity for me to go for the trifecta and say sometime that would have embarrassd him but I decided that I was just going to zip it and finish the game.

You already embarrassed yourself enough by speaking to someone in the stands in the first place. It's never a good thing to engage a fan and especially a coach when they are sitting in the stands.

[Toren]

5-8-3 Granting a timeout when the ball is dead...

6-1-2(c) The ball becomes live when on free throw it is at the disposal of the free thrower

And stop talking to people in the stands

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by Smitty

You already embarrassed yourself enough by speaking to someone in the stands in the first place.

Sheesh. That's a bit much. There are lots of scenarios where talking to a fan in the stands is completely benign. Was this one of them? I'm not so sure, but saying it's an embarrassment is certainly over dramatizing things.

[Smitty]

Maybe "never" was an overstatement, but when a fan/coach is obviously agitated, as in the OP, there's nothing good that can come of engaging that person - especially during the game. The person that typically comes out looking like an a$$ is the official.

Of course if you know someone or someone asks you a casual question with respect, that's an entirely different scenario.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Smitty

The person that typically comes out looking like an a$$ is the official.

Yup. I had an eerily similar situation last night with the "I'm just a fan" varsity coach during a freshman game. I wish I had just ignored him.

[Adam]

Smitty's right, and deecee seems to have agreed that it wasn't the greatest idea.

[Ignats75]

Instead of engaging the coach, I would've filed a report with the OHSAA of the unsporting nature of the VC's behavior. Copy to the AD and principal.

Same procedure as for an ejection, Makes for a nice warning but without the ejection. In Ohio, an ejection includes a $100 fine. Everyone gets the not so subtle message. AND I get the last word.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Yup. I had an eerily similar situation last night with the "I'm just a fan" varsity coach during a freshman game. I wish I had just ignored him.

One of the best feelings I ever had was once (about 4-5 years ago) doing a boys summer tournament for a very good program and their head coach, who is well known, was not the HC for this contest as he let one of his assistants handle to task.

He instead was seated at the end of the bench where he felt he had carte blanche to say whatever he wanted. Midway through sentence #2 I whack him and inform the HC of all his repercussions. All the poor SOB stories of, but he's not even part of this game and blah, blah, blah. I tell the HC "It's your bench, and your problem, not mine."

Many officials, because of this coach's reputation, would not have done this. To this day, and I have had some similar games like this in the off season, when he sees me work those games he takes a seat in the stands and acts like any other deranged parent/fan/spectator.

[ga314ref]

...seems to equate the bounce to at the disposal.

However, in this case the trail would like have had to turn his head to verify that it is the head coach making the TO request. I would have no problem in granting the timeout and explaining this is why it was granted.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by ga314ref

...seems to equate the bounce to at the disposal.

Poor wording by the writers there. Fortunately, 4-7b clearly states that it is not at the disposal until the ball is caught.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Smitty

You already embarrassed yourself enough by speaking to someone in the stands in the first place.

GUY IN STANDS: Hey ref, I'm the director of officials for the Horizon League. You look good out there. I want you to work for me. What's your name?
ME: (silence; pay no attention)
GUY IN STANDS: Well, if you're not interested . . .
ME: (wake up from nightmare)