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Old Tue Dec 06, 2011, 11:52am
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We had a meeting last night and the question came up about substitute A1 that has legally entered the game during a dead ball. I argued that A1 could be subbed out during that same dead ball period without playing a tick. Other reffs disagreed, I believe I'm correct and I'm sure I've read that subs don't have to play a tick. When I was asked for proof I just said I read it on the forum. Can anyone direct me to the correct rule. We dug through all the subbing rules with no luck.

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Old Tue Dec 06, 2011, 11:55am
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This may not help, but could they show you where it says he had to play a tick? I also could not find where it said a coach can not sub a sub sort of speak.
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Old Tue Dec 06, 2011, 11:59am
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This may not help, but could they show you where it says he had to play a tick? I also could not find where it said a coach can not sub a sub sort of speak.
Thanks, that is where the argument sort of ended, I said if you can't find a rule prohibiting it, then it must be legal.
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Old Tue Dec 06, 2011, 12:02pm
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I said if you can't find a rule prohibiting it, then it must be legal.
That is the heart of the matter. If they can't grasp this then there may be no help for them.
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Old Tue Dec 06, 2011, 12:38pm
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We had a meeting last night and the question came up about substitute A1 that has legally entered the game during a dead ball. I argued that A1 could be subbed out during that same dead ball period without playing a tick. Other reffs disagreed, I believe I'm correct and I'm sure I've read that subs don't have to play a tick. When I was asked for proof I just said I read it on the forum. Can anyone direct me to the correct rule. We dug through all the subbing rules with no luck.

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Apparently they are thinking of 3-3-4 where a player being replaced need to sit a tick and applying this to the sub coming in.
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Old Tue Dec 06, 2011, 12:39pm
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Here is your answer

Try 3.3.3 Situation A

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Old Tue Dec 06, 2011, 01:04pm
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try 3.3.3 situation a

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Old Tue Dec 06, 2011, 04:35pm
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Try 3.3.3 Situation A

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That Case Book ruling came from this NFHS Interpretation. I provide it because it offers even more detail.

2006-07 NFHS Basketball Rules Interpretations

SITUATION 11: A1 is injured during a play in which he/she was fouled. As a result, A1 cannot attempt the awarded free throws. A6 replaces A1 and attempts the free throws, which are successful. Team A then calls a time-out. At the conclusion of the time-out, (a) A1 is ready to play, or (b) A7 replaces A6. RULING: In (a), A1 may not re-enter the game until the next opportunity to substitute after the clock has properly started. Legal substitution in (b); A6 may leave the game at any time. Substitution restrictions only apply to being withdrawn and attempting to re-enter without the clock properly starting. (8-2; 3-3-4)
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Old Tue Dec 06, 2011, 04:38pm
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We were always taught that you don't need to play a tic, but you need to sit a tic.
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Old Tue Dec 06, 2011, 06:16pm
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We were always taught that you don't need to play a tic, but you need to sit a tic.
With rare exceptions when there are only five eligible players remaining in the game.
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