Simultaneous or false double foul

[Rob1968]

Camron,
The officials got together and determined that the foul on the shooter was first, and then while the shot was in the air, the foul by A2 occurred. What was of most importance was the administration of the penalties.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Rob1968

Camron,
The officials got together and determined that the foul on the shooter was first, and then while the shot was in the air, the foul by A2 occurred. What was of most importance was the administration of the penalties.

Which means, that one occurred after the other....and not simultaneous.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Rob1968

What was of most importance was the administration of the penalties.

No, it wasn't.

Unless you know whether they were simultaneous or one after the other, you CAN'T determine the administration of the penalties.

So what was of most importance was what type of foul it was. Determine that and then you know what the administration is.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

No, it wasn't.

Unless you know whether they were simultaneous or one after the other, you CAN'T determine the administration of the penalties.

So what was of most importance was what type of foul it was. Determine that and then you know what the administration is.

Exactly. Knowing the definitions is the first step.

[Rob1968]

What I meant by "What was most important was the administration of the penalties." was in regards to the conversation with the official that came to me. You see, his partner wanted to not shoot the two merited free throws, and that seemed to be excessively punitive to team A.
I agree, that knowing the definitions of Simultaneous and False Double Fouls is primary in such a situation, and that by knowing that, and applying the correct definition, the procedure will then be correct.
Thanks, for your responses.

[Nevadaref]

I would use the following as a guide for helping to determine SF vs FDF. Did the shooter get fouled prior to or after the release of the try? If before, then this sitch is likely an FDF, but if after then it is more likely to be SF. Also don't forget that if this is determined to be a FDF, then the bonus could required at the other end.

[Rob1968]

Thanks, Nevada. That will be very helpful in talking to the official that brought up the question to me.

[bainsey]

Let's say these were simultaneous fouls.

Would we then have to determine whether the fouls were before or after the ball was released? (If before, POI goes to Team A; if after, POI goes to the arrow.)