Player control on a throw in?

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Does it really matter....they're penalized EXACTLY the same. Once the team control foul was instituted, the player control foul really became unnecessary.

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Almost

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I don't consider whether a basket counts or not a part of the penalty...just who is recorded for a foul, FTs and/or who gets the ball.

And the free throws are why Snaqs is correct. An airborne shooter is not covered by the team control foul rule. Without the player control foul, a "try, release, crash" could result in a 1-and-1 for the defender. So even with the team control foul at your disposal, you still need the player control foul.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

And the free throws are why Snaqs is correct. An airborne shooter is not covered by the team control foul rule. Without the player control foul, a "try, release, crash" could result in a 1-and-1 for the defender. So even with the team control foul at your disposal, you still need the player control foul.

Still the same penalty for the two fouls whenever they can currently be called. And if they merged them into one, the airborne shooter exception would be blended into the team control foul.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Still the same penalty for the two fouls whenever they can currently be called.

But that's not what you said earlier.

And if they merged them into one, the airborne shooter exception would be blended into the team control foul.

Perhaps, but again, that's not what you said. You said:

Once the team control foul was instituted, the player control foul really became unnecessary.

And not to be overly anal, but that's just not true. Even after the team control foul was instituted, there was a situation remaining that was a player control foul, which was NOT a team control foul. That's my only point, and it's the point that I think Snaq was making when he correctly said "Almost".

[Adam]

Scrapper is right. That was my point.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

But that's not what you said earlier.


Perhaps, but again, that's not what you said. You said:

And not to be overly anal, but that's just not true. Even after the team control foul was instituted, there was a situation remaining that was a player control foul, which was NOT a team control foul. That's my only point, and it's the point that I think Snaq was making when he correctly said "Almost".

And my point was that splitting them into two separate names serves no benefit because the very same exception that is tacked on the the player control foul for an airborne shooter could just as easily be tacked onto the team control foul. Having both is not necessary at all. The PENALTY remains the same