Designated spot Throw-in muffed??

[Camron Rust]

If the ball is bouncing around ON the court as was previously, I contend that the throwin has ended. The thrower may not have intended to make the throwin, but they did when they released the ball, deliberately or inadvertently, onto the court.

If it is bouncing around OOB after being inadvertently dropped, the throw in is in progress...and disposal is still in effect...timeout OK. Disposal starts when the ball is made available and continues until the throwin is released.

[billyu2]

[QUOTE=Camron Rust;797964]If the ball is bouncing around ON the court as was previously, I contend that the throwin has ended. The thrower may not have intended to make the throwin, but they did when they released the ball, deliberately or inadvertently, onto the court.

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Camron, did you mean the throw in count ended? If the player fumbled the ball into the court the ball still must be legally touched for the throw-in to end, right?

[Camron Rust]

[QUOTE=billyu2;798012]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

If the ball is bouncing around ON the court as was previously, I contend that the throwin has ended. The thrower may not have intended to make the throwin, but they did when they released the ball, deliberately or inadvertently, onto the court.

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Camron, did you mean the throw in count ended? If the player fumbled the ball into the court the ball still must be legally touched for the throw-in to end, right?

Yes....the count, throw in restrictions (aside from the thrower being the first to touch the ball inbounds), the ability to call a timeout, etc....have all ended. Any player except the thrower can touch/grab the ball. But the "throwin", of course, ends when it is touched.

This WAS a throwin pass...even if it was ugly as the ball left a player's hands on the throwin. It went into the court. When a player touches it, the throwin will have ended.

[McMac]

We asked this question at our meeting on Monday night, sent it to one of our interps and this was his reply:

It is a violation for not throwing the ball directly onto the court. After the violation he can get a time out but the other team still gets the ball for a throw in.

Some officials in actuality will just give it back to him but that is not approved by the Federation.
Call the violation.

[Adam]

That's only true if it bounces OOB and then in bounds. Otherwise, your interpreter opens the door for calling a violation for bouncing (dribbling) the ball.

Also, your interpreter seems to want to call a violation even if the fumbled ball never leaves the three foot spot. I think that's wrong.

[bainsey]

It is a violation for not throwing the ball directly onto the court. After the violation he can get a time out but the other team still gets the ball for a throw in.

I spoke with an interpreter today, who said the same thing. The whole point of buying your way out of it with a time out is moot.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I spoke with an interpreter today, who said the same thing. The whole point of buying your way out of it with a time out is moot.

It may be a violation, but it's not that one (necessarily).