Hands Up or Hands Down?

[Rob1968]

Case Book 9.1.3 D and 9.1.3 G both reference the judgement of the official. So, when in Rome . . .

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Rob1968

Case Book 9.1.3 D and 9.1.3 G both reference the judgement of the official. So, when in Rome . . .

Rob:

I would like to refer you to the 14th, 18th, and 20th posts in this thread.

MTD, Sr.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Rob:

I would like to refer you to the 14th, 18th, and 20th posts in this thread.

MTD, Sr.

Mark, he's not even talking about wiggling the fingers; he's just talking about outstretched arms. That's even more of a stretch of the disconcertion rule than the 14th, 18th, and 20th posts in this thread.

[Rob1968]

MTD, Sr.
Mostly, I was thinking of the many discussions that occur on this forum, that may never come to a a conclussion, because of the allowance of judgement that is inherent in particular scenarios. I've been in meetings in which "twinkling the fingers" has been stated as a violation of the disconcertion rule, and in others in which talking among teammates, during the free-throw, or raising a hand or hands, arm or arms, is said to be a violation, etc.
I'm comfortable with the judgement of most of my partners, whether they see such actions as a violation or not. And I enjoy the interchange of personal guidelines of judgement that are expressed in these threads.
Sometimes, the judgement of a particular official follows the written info in the Case Book, sometimes it compresses that info, and sometimes it expands it, in his/her application. Still, I enjoy working with a new partner, and noting the nuances of his/her application of the rules and guidelines, just like I enjoy this forum.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Rob1968

I enjoy this forum.

Let's see if you're still saying that when Jurassic Referee returns from his sabbatical?

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Let's see if you're still saying that when Jurassic Referee returns from his sabbatical?

And speaking of JR, I did a search and his last post on Officiating.com was in the Basketball Forum on Thursday, May 12, 2011, at 09:17pmEDT.

There are a few of us who also posted on the old NFHS Officials Forum and knew the JR posted on that Forum under a different name, and since that Forum has been closed in favor of the new NFHS Officials Forum so I can't search for when he last posted on the old NFHS Officials Forum. I don't think he as posted on the new NFHS Officials Forum.

MTD, Sr.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

And speaking of JR, I did a search and his last post on Officiating.com was in the Basketball Forum on Thursday, May 12, 2011, at 09:17pmEDT.

He got pissed off at Scrapper1, picked up his basketball, and went home. He'll be back. I'm sure that he's lurking out there, ready to pounce, and attack, at the first opportunity.

[RookieDude]

...come back JR...we need you!

OK...we NEED:

* your instruction
* your experience
* your knowledge
* your humor
* your ability to give us a kick in the butt when we need it...and even when we don't.