Hands Hit

[Bandit]

Ok where is it ??? I can find the statement to the fact that the hands are not a part of the bat in the ASA rule book but can't find it in the FED rule book..Am I just missing it ???

[bluezebra]

Just because there's no reference in the rule book doesn't mean the hands are part of the bat. In FED they don't need to mention the obvious. The book also doesn't say the feet, or any other part of the body, are not part of the bat.

Bob

[Bandit]

Bob: I'm not so sure about the FED book not needing to mention the obvious. I've had some questions with-in the last week that if we could get the coaches to "read" the book they might find out a lot of new things. What brougt the question up, was I did a Varsity game last night with a state ranked team and had the coach questioned if I was appling a ASA rule when his pitcher hit a opposing batter on the hands, well out of the strike zone. He knows me from summer ball and accepted my explination with-out any trouble. Just wanted to see if I could find it for my own satisfaction.

Chuck

[llblue]

Until such time as sporting goods stores start selling bats with hnnds attached to them, the hands are never part of the bat at any level, in any code.

Any manager telling you this is either dumb or just playing with your head. Common sense tells you there's no way the hands are part of the bat.

Alex

[bluezebra]

Bandit:

Next time a coach questions about hands being part of the bat, ask him to take a bat, place it on the ground and stand up. Ask him where the bat is and where his hands are.

You may also give him/her llump's answer. It's a great one.

This is one of the oldest, and dumbest, myths there is.

You may also tell the coach to look up FED Softball Rule 5, Dead Ball - Suspension of Play. 5-1-1-a NOTE(FP), which references 8-1-1-d.

There's the written reference that even a coach should understand. THE BALL IS DEAD. If the ball hits the batter's hand while she's swinging, it's DEAD and a STRIKE. If the hands were part of the bat, the ball would be alive and in play unless it went foul. If the coach STILL doesn't understand, recommened a remedial reading class. The rule's been in the book forever. You just have to know where to look.

Bob

[llblue]

First, as an aside to Bob, I would most certainly be a male. I've been called many things, female is not one of them

I did a JLS tournament this weekend.

2 outs in the inning, full to the batter. She swings and the ball hits her on the wrist. F2 helps even less by dropping the dropped 3rd strike.

Manager obviously ignored my rather loud "dead ball, strike 3" announcement. As did his player. She says "it hit me" I said yes, but you swung.

Repeat the same with the manager. I run him through the rule. He comes around after catching on that I have a clue. He agrees with me and walks away. Between innings he said he figures tonight will be a good night to read the book. That's right, play 3 games, question everything and then read the book.

He was one of those guys who tried to play me whenever he could, he finally got bored when he realized I knew what I was doing.

This was the same guy last year who was arguing for interference on a delayed obstruction call. His team was on offense, F6 bumped R2 and he starts screaming for intereference. He did it twice that game actually. He was leading by 15, before it got Kevorkianed so, I obliged him and called R2 for interference and the out.

He got the point and never asked for INT again at the wrong time.

Alex

[bluezebra]

Alex:

I never made reference to you being a female. If you re-read my post, you'll see I was referring to the coach>

"You may also give him/her llump's answer. It's a great one."

Bob