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Old Thu May 29, 2008, 09:05am
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Hands together

ASA and NFHS

What constitutes bringing the hands together for the pitcher.

Hand and ball in glove?

Ball partially in glove?

Some sort of contact with the glove and the ball?

Etc. Etc. Etc.

My thought on this have been ball completely in glove.

Right/Wrong?

Anything in writing from NFHS or ASA on this?

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Old Thu May 29, 2008, 09:17am
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ASA and NFHS
Hand and ball in glove?

Ball partially in glove?

Some sort of contact with the glove and the ball?
any of the above but at least "Some sort of contact with the glove and the ball"
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Old Thu May 29, 2008, 09:18am
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Originally Posted by tmielke
ASA and NFHS

What constitutes bringing the hands together for the pitcher.

Hand and ball in glove?

Ball partially in glove?

Some sort of contact with the glove and the ball?

Etc. Etc. Etc.

My thought on this have been ball completely in glove.

Right/Wrong?

Anything in writing from NFHS or ASA on this?

Thanks
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Any point on the PP after the "signal taking" pause when the hands touch and one or both are holding the ball.
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Old Thu May 29, 2008, 09:19am
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Originally Posted by tmielke
ASA and NFHS

What constitutes bringing the hands together for the pitcher.

Hand and ball in glove?

Ball partially in glove?

Some sort of contact with the glove and the ball?

Etc. Etc. Etc.

My thought on this have been ball completely in glove.

Right/Wrong?

Anything in writing from NFHS or ASA on this?

Thanks
Tom
Neither ASA nor NFHS require the ball be in - or partially in - the glove ... just that the hands come together.
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Old Thu May 29, 2008, 09:19am
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ASA and NFHS

What constitutes bringing the hands together for the pitcher.

Hand and ball in glove?

Ball partially in glove?

Some sort of contact with the glove and the ball?

Etc. Etc. Etc.

My thought on this have been ball completely in glove.

Right/Wrong?

Anything in writing from NFHS or ASA on this?

Thanks
Tom
Try this exercise:

Put your hands:

palm to back of hand
palm to palm
thumb to thumb, knuckle to knuckle
end of any finger on the right hand to any finger on the left hand.

Working on the premise of anything outside the wrist is part of the hand, was there any circumstance where right and left did not come together?
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Old Thu May 29, 2008, 09:43am
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Responses on this forum are really slowing down.
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Old Thu May 29, 2008, 10:58am
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Try this exercise:

Put your hands:

palm to back of hand
palm to palm
thumb to thumb, knuckle to knuckle
end of any finger on the right hand to any finger on the left hand.

Working on the premise of anything outside the wrist is part of the hand, was there any circumstance where right and left did not come together?

I actually did something like this. I asked 6 people, that had no clue why I was asking, to put their hands together. They all put them together as you would if praying or they clasped them together. My way of thinking is touching the ball to the tip of the glove is not together, just touching.

Oh well. Learned something new. I probably shouldn't call it different than everybody else!
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Old Thu May 29, 2008, 12:31pm
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How about waving them within 4 or 5 inches of each other?
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Old Thu May 29, 2008, 12:42pm
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How about waving them within 4 or 5 inches of each other?
In the 7th inning when it's raining ???
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ASA and NFHS

What constitutes bringing the hands together for the pitcher.
For me, it is the motion, not the contact.
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Old Thu May 29, 2008, 05:26pm
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Some sort of contact with the glove and the ball?
For at least [close to] one second, right?
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Old Thu May 29, 2008, 06:42pm
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Someone once told me the P can bring her throwing hand (with ball) behind the glove, thus concealing the ball behind the glove, and that constitutes bringing the hands together.

Any thoughts on this?
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Old Thu May 29, 2008, 06:46pm
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Someone once told me the P can bring her throwing hand (with ball) behind the glove, thus concealing the ball behind the glove, and that constitutes bringing the hands together.

Any thoughts on this?
Can you say for sure that the hands did not touch?
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Old Thu May 29, 2008, 06:58pm
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Can you say for sure that the hands did not touch?

From the PU position...... NO.
It's impossible to know for sure if the two hands touched.
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Old Thu May 29, 2008, 07:03pm
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From the PU position...... NO.
It's impossible to know for sure if the two hands touched.
Then you didn't see a violation.
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