Hands Up or Hands Down?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

We'll just have to agree to disagree.

I'm feeling verklempt. Discuss amongst yourselves. Topic: Middle School scoreboards and dress codes, and how they affect the backcourt substitution rules.

[Lukester]

"Who's got shooter?"...

[klacc]

I think it is fine. Officials tend do think that they have more authority then they actually do.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by klacc

I think it is fine. Officials tend do think that they have more authority then they actually do.

klacc:

"What" do you think is fine? And, please go into detail as to how officials "think that they have more authority then they actually do"? Camron and I would love to know.

MTD, Sr.

[kyref10]

Originally Posted by Lukester

"Who's got shooter?"...

Which someone usually confirms they do. So after the first free throw I will step in and say "Number 14" has the shooter so we don't need to keep asking.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

klacc:

"What" do you think is fine? And, please go into detail as to how officials "think that they have more authority then they actually do"? Camron and I would love to know.

MTD, Sr.

I'm with you on this one. While I can't envision the wiggling fingers actually consituting diconcertion, I suppose it's possible. But klacc's statement here seems like he heard it from a guy who also likes to say officials should be invisible during the game.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Why are the defenders doing it? They're doing it with the hope that it will cause the shooter to be distracted and miss. It may not be effective very often, but that is their intent. Since the ONLY reason for them to do it is to disconcert the shooter, why allow it?

+1. Exactly.

[Zoochy]

As I have mentioned in the past, I had a player, in different games, behind the shooter and in the space next to the shooter squeak their shoes. Here is the kicker. One time the shooter stopped and looked at the squeaker. (disconcerting?). I held out my hand and called a violation when the free throw was missed. I did not have the time to quietly warn the squeaker.
What about the Coach or Bench personnel yelling during the free throw? I had a Coach yell "Get the Rebound" and it was the 1st of 2 throws.
I try to inform the players. " Hands up or down. No movement or talking when the player has the ball."

[nrose24]

I saw a few comments about if it was legal for the hands to be out, i.e. not vertical, and questioning if it was in the rule book. I have looked and cannot find it either. When I brought it up at an association meeting last night, EVERYONE there said it was not legal, but nobody could tell me where it was in the rule book.

So, I would like to know if anyone on here can point out in the rule book where this is restricted, or if anyone actually restricts players from doing it in the game.

[APG]

You won't find it in the rule book because there's nothing in the book that restricts a player from doing this...nor requires the hands to be vertical or down.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

You won't find it in the rule book because there's nothing in the book that restricts a player from doing this...nor requires the hands to be vertical or down.

Right -- there's only the requirement that it not be judged "disconcerting."

[Camron Rust]

And that their FEET be within the 4 vertical planes that define the lane space (which is 3 feet by 3 feet) and one of them near the lane lane (whatever "near" is) until the try hits.

A lot of the confusion probably arises from officials trying to extend these restrictions to the hands/arms.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by nrose24

I saw a few comments about if it was legal for the hands to be out, i.e. not vertical, and questioning if it was in the rule book. I have looked and cannot find it either. When I brought it up at an association meeting last night, EVERYONE there said it was not legal, but nobody could tell me where it was in the rule book.

So, I would like to know if anyone on here can point out in the rule book where this is restricted, or if anyone actually restricts players from doing it in the game.

So your association must call a lot of free throw lane violations.

[The_Rookie]

Originally Posted by nrose24

I saw a few comments about if it was legal for the hands to be out, i.e. not vertical, and questioning if it was in the rule book. I have looked and cannot find it either. When I brought it up at an association meeting last night, EVERYONE there said it was not legal, but nobody could tell me where it was in the rule book.

So, I would like to know if anyone on here can point out in the rule book where this is restricted, or if anyone actually restricts players from doing it in the game.

This has been my experience as well and why I asked the question. The way I was taught to handle it was tell the players the first time you see the hands and arms not vertical to tell them either hands down or straight up. Have not called any violations for this..just the verbal guidance

[Adam]

Originally Posted by The_Rookie

This has been my experience as well and why I asked the question. The way I was taught to handle it was tell the players the first time you see the hands and arms not vertical to tell them either hands down or straight up. Have not called any violations for this..just the verbal guidance

Why? What rule are they breaking?