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Old Sun Aug 07, 2011, 07:24pm
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Without looking at anybody else's answer (and with no ability to slow down the video) I have B1 still sliding into place after A1 elevates.
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Old Sun Aug 07, 2011, 07:30pm
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Block.

But in real time seeing it just once, I have no problems with an official's account of this being a PC. It's pretty close.

Great video APG! Thanks.
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Old Sun Aug 07, 2011, 09:36pm
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block...and NOT the C's calling area. should have been lead all the way.
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Old Mon Aug 08, 2011, 07:55am
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block...and NOT the C's calling area. should have been lead all the way.
This might depend on what mechanics you use -- does L have the entire lane, or just to the middle of the lane?

I'm fine with the charge call here.
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Old Mon Aug 08, 2011, 08:58am
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This might depend on what mechanics you use -- does L have the entire lane, or just to the middle of the lane?

I'm fine with the charge call here.
unless the block/charge contact occurs outside the lane on C's side - imho, the Lead should have block/charge calls on drives to the basket....the defender involved in these plays is almost never the one guarding the ball - he/she is coming over from the weak-side...who better to see that than the Lead?
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Old Mon Aug 08, 2011, 09:19am
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L can see it if the defender comes from the L's side. But, this defender came from the wing on C's side. L would not be looking there (or if he was, then he should have come across).
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Old Mon Aug 08, 2011, 10:01am
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So, it appears that this is a two-man crew, as the over-all play is on the camera side of the floor, and the Lead doesn't rotate.
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...if this was 3-man, then I'd be saying that the lead was too slow to rotate strong side.
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block...and NOT the C's calling area. should have been lead all the way.
Looks like a college game, but due to no L rotation & the position of the calling official, it seems to be a crew of 2. I still cant figure it out... 2 or 3 person crew APG?
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2-3 seconds in, the L does venture to the Z, which could be evidence that he was going to rotate, which may imply a 3-person crew.
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Old Mon Aug 08, 2011, 10:31am
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Looks like a college game, but due to no L rotation & the position of the calling official, it seems to be a crew of 2. I still cant figure it out... 2 or 3 person crew APG?
Not a college game...it's a HS game in the Washington Catholic Athletic Conference. Home team is Gonzaga College High School. Not sure who the visiting team is. I am guessing it's 3-person by the depth of the guy on the sideline who makes the PC call. The L looks like he is going to rotate until the ball is kicked back out to top of key area...

As far as the call...no problem with the PC call at full speed. On replay, I would be kicking myself because it should be a block.
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Old Mon Aug 08, 2011, 11:04am
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2-3 seconds in, the L does venture to the Z,
The L ventures where?
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I am guessing it's 3-person by the depth of the guy on the sideline who makes the PC call. The L looks like he is going to rotate until the ball is kicked back out to top of key area...
That's what I thought, too. If this is two man, that's the deepest T I've ever seen.
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The L ventures where?
To the Z. It's a letter in "Gonzaga".
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Old Tue Aug 09, 2011, 07:34am
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To the Z. It's a letter in "Gonzaga".
Ah. I thought it was some new positioning shorthand
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Old Tue Aug 09, 2011, 09:56am
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unless the block/charge contact occurs outside the lane on C's side - imho, the Lead should have block/charge calls on drives to the basket....the defender involved in these plays is almost never the one guarding the ball - he/she is coming over from the weak-side...who better to see that than the Lead?
Our training here is that lead has half of the lane. If he's looking at the other half, he needs to rotate. Note, for technical reasons, I haven't seen the play, I'm just responding to the idea that the lead has the entire lane in three-person.
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Old Tue Aug 09, 2011, 05:27pm
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I have a question: why do those of u who said block, have a block?? This seems to be a clear cut block, the player continues to slide over and towards the off. Player after he has went airborne and correct me if I'm wrong but a player is allwed to establish LGP and move to maintain, but he must be in position to take the contact once the off. Player has went airborne, correct?
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