How far do you push?

[Brick43]

I want to thank all who commented on this post. I never thought it would gather this many responses. I will say that after reading all of your thoughts and comments it is clear that I need to be discussing more in the pre-game conference. Typically my partner is more senior than I and they are conducting the conference but for this league I am working with all 1st and 2nd yr refs. So my 5 yrs is now the Sr.

One last question: I am going to be working with this ref over the next 6-8 weeks in this league, a rotation of 4 refs, do I show him the rule book for this situation? He is a 2nd yr ref.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Brick43

I want to thank all who commented on this post. I never thought it would gather this many responses. I will say that after reading all of your thoughts and comments it is clear that I need to be discussing more in the pre-game conference. Typically my partner is more senior than I and they are conducting the conference but for this league I am working with all 1st and 2nd yr refs. So my 5 yrs is now the Sr.

One last question: I am going to be working with this ref over the next 6-8 weeks in this league, a rotation of 4 refs, do I show him the rule book for this situation? He is a 2nd yr ref.

Exactly what happened on the court?
What was the play?
What discussion, if any, happened after he made the call?
Was it a rule error or a difference in judgment? IOW, did he simply see it differently, or did he see the same thing and misapply the rule?
Was there post-game discussion?

[Brick43]

The first post of this thread. My partner called a BC violation because a-2, received a throw-in and tipped the ball into the BC and was the 1st to retrieve in the BC. I saw the whole play as I was chopping in the clock and knew there was no violation. I called him over for a conference and he saw exactly what I saw but was adamant that by rule this was a BC violation. He didn't change his call and we proceeded with the game.
I do not have the rules book in front of me now but when I read the Case # it read identical to our situation. So my question is do I bring this up this week when I see him?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Brick43

The first post of this thread. My partner called a BC violation because a-2, received a throw-in and tipped the ball into the BC and was the 1st to retrieve in the BC. I saw the whole play as I was chopping in the clock and knew there was no violation. I called him over for a conference and he saw exactly what I saw but was adamant that by rule this was a BC violation. He didn't change his call and we proceeded with the game.
I do not have the rules book in front of me now but when I read the Case # it read identical to our situation. So my question is do I bring this up this week when I see him?

I would.

"Hey, you got me into the rule book after that last game, thanks. Look what I found in the case book."

You'll find out real fast how receptive he is to actually learning the rules.