AAU Coaches Vs HS Coaches

[mikeb]

I have worked AAU over the years from Nationals, Showcases, and in between. AAU coaches seem to be less coaches and more of players themselves. Most of them act like kids and you generally see more coaches get kicked out, tech'd, or told to shutup than you would in a High School game. It is very frustrating and can be very annoying. But in the end I have a good time with it. Its funny to see how a lot of coaches act while I am waiting for another game to start.

[BLydic]

Originally Posted by mikeb

... and you generally see more coaches get kicked out, tech'd, or told to shutup than you would in a High School game. It is very frustrating and can be very annoying. But in the end I have a good time with it. Its funny to see how a lot of coaches act while I am waiting for another game to start.

Bold - nice, very professional

The rest is why I try to avoid preparing for AAU coaches any more than a varsity coach.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BLydic

Bold - nice, very professional

The rest is why I try to avoid preparing for AAU coaches any more than a varsity coach.

I'm not sure why acknowledging the increased likelihood of knuckleheadedness is a bad thing. It's not difficult for me to expect poor behavior and be surprised by angels standing on the sideline.

It's the same as the saying, "anticipate the play but not the call." Knowing what to expect prevents you from being caught off guard when the coach starts chirping from the opening tip.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'm not sure why acknowledging the increased likelihood of knuckleheadedness is a bad thing. It's not difficult for me to expect poor behavior and be surprised by angels standing on the sideline.

I do not get this way of thinking either. Most of the time nothing major happens, but some coaches you have to be more proactive with to prevent a problem.

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It's the same as the saying, "anticipate the play but not the call." Knowing what to expect prevents you from being caught off guard when the coach starts chirping from the opening tip.

+1

Peace

[tref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'm not sure why acknowledging the increased likelihood of knuckleheadedness is a bad thing. It's not difficult for me to expect poor behavior and be surprised by angels standing on the sideline.

It's the same as the saying, "anticipate the play but not the call." Knowing what to expect prevents you from being caught off guard when the coach starts chirping from the opening tip.

Some choose to react to the unknown, others choose to respond to what they prepared for. Go figure...

[BLydic]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'm not sure why acknowledging the increased likelihood of knuckleheadedness is a bad thing. It's not difficult for me to expect poor behavior and be surprised by angels standing on the sideline.

It's the same as the saying, "anticipate the play but not the call." Knowing what to expect prevents you from being caught off guard when the coach starts chirping from the opening tip.

Some people just don't go around living with the expectation of a bad thing happening, just to be surprised by all the good things. We each have our own way of thinking, more power to you and yours. Mine is working for me.

If you're caught off guard by a chirping coach, then maybe you haven't experienced many chirping coaches, not necessarily that you're working an AAU game. I guess western PA is the only area of the country where you can find a chirping coach, from the opening tip mind you, at the all accountable interscholastic level.

From my experience, I do believe the likelihood of knuckleheadedness exists at the AAU level. I just think it's more likely to happen inside the lines, which is why I pointed that out in my initial response.

Originally Posted by tref

Some choose to react to the unknown, others choose to respond to what they prepared for. Go figure...

I'm always looking to improve and all ears. Please share your methods of preparing for an AAU tournament coach.

[dailydoseofLZ]

Originally Posted by mikeb

I have worked AAU over the years from Nationals, Showcases, and in between. AAU coaches seem to be less coaches and more of players themselves. Most of them act like kids and you generally see more coaches get kicked out, tech'd, or told to shutup than you would in a High School game. It is very frustrating and can be very annoying. But in the end I have a good time with it. Its funny to see how a lot of coaches act while I am waiting for another game to start.

This quote is once again why I wanted to make sure it was "understood" that "that" mikeb is NOT "this" Mike B.

"Shut up" is certainly not a practiced method of mine for asking a coach to try and limit the direction of his yelling in the direction of his players.

[mikeb]

Originally Posted by dailydoseofLZ

This quote is once again why I wanted to make sure it was "understood" that "that" mikeb is NOT "this" Mike B.

"Shut up" is certainly not a practiced method of mine for asking a coach to try and limit the direction of his yelling in the direction of his players.

I don't understand what your trying to prove to anyone?
I don't care what a coach says to his players thats between him,the player, the team, and maybe the parents. So you saying that is based on your own opinion not mine. I would not care if a coach is yelling at his players thats not my business and not yours. I am there to officiate the game.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mikeb

I don't understand what your trying to prove to anyone?
I don't care what a coach says to his players thats between him,the player, the team, and maybe the parents. So you saying that is based on your own opinion not mine. I would not care if a coach is yelling at his players thats not my business and not yours. I am there to officiate the game.

That's not what he was saying, he's saying he would never tell a coach to shut up.

The comment on yelling was meant like this: "Coach, yell at your players, not me."

[tref]

Originally Posted by mikeb

I don't understand what your trying to prove to anyone?
I don't care what a coach says to his players thats between him,the player, the team, and maybe the parents. So you saying that is based on your own opinion not mine. I would not care if a coach is yelling at his players thats not my business and not yours. I am there to officiate the game.

And you could care less if they are out of their box as long as they arent yelling at you, right?

[Adam]

Good point, T. I do "care" what the coach is yelling at his players, although 99% of the time it doesn't matter.

He doesn't get to denigrate the officials while he talks to his players. "I wasn't talking to you."

He doesn't get to use obsenity towards his players.

He doesn't get to threaten the other team by talking to his players. "Johnny, if he looks at you funny, take him out of the knees!" "Yes, Sensei."

[Tio]

AAU coaches can be MUCH worse. There is no accountability. For example if a HS coach gets ejected, they work for the AD.. often times there is no recourse for an AAU coach's actions. Most of them are just there to coach their players and will never cause an issue.

[Multiple Sports]

Originally Posted by Tio

AAU coaches can be MUCH worse. There is no accountability. For example if a HS coach gets ejected, they work for the AD.. often times there is no recourse for an AAU coach's actions. Most of them are just there to coach their players and will never cause an issue.

There was a bench clearing brawl in a women's game 16u in Baltimore this weekend !!!!!

They don't call it Bloodymore for anything !!!!!!!!!!!

[Tio]

I don't think you should go into an AAU game with any preconceived notions or a short leash for the coach. However, you need to keep in mind that the environment is different than a sanctioned (by HS association or NCAA) contest. Most likely you do not have dedicated game management and if you do, they are probably covering several courts, etc.

I hold the same standards regarding bench decorum in a summer game as I do the season - I only know one way to do things. I have to be ready for different reactions or challenges on the AAU circuit.

[JWP]

If the individual or group that is organizing the event have their poop in a pile, things should go pretty smoothly, odd jerk-coach not withstanding.

If the event is disorganized, expect to have a coaches who believe they can behave like Bob Knight and get away with it, and players who think acting like Rasheed Wallace is appropriate. Stay as unemotional as possible, give out the T's as needed, and let the kids play the game.

I have also seen these types of games where the coaches don't have a clue; they basically just drove the van so the kids could get to the game. They will be the type that will either sit there and never say or word, or they will be the ones yelling "three seconds!" as shot after shot after shot goes up in the key.

I wrote a couple of weeks ago about a tourney I worked where if anybody received a technical, it was an automatic fine, and the player/coach was not allowed to participate until the fine was paid. Never had a problem.