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Old Tue Apr 05, 2011, 12:12pm
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The officials get evaluated on every game. They review every play and get scores based on correct call and incorrect calls. It is likely it will be pointed out to them.

I agree it would have been OOO, agree that there is a difference between the two games, and I AGREE WITH THE NO-CALL (I would not have called it either).

I was just stating that I think the message will be referee to the end and there are two plays that might be used to get the message across. John Adams likes to make sure the message is clear.
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Old Tue Apr 05, 2011, 12:16pm
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The officials get evaluated on every game. They review every play and get scores based on correct call and incorrect calls. It is likely it will be pointed out to them.

I agree it would have been OOO, agree that there is a difference between the two games, and I AGREE WITH THE NO-CALL (I would not have called it either).

I was just stating that I think the message will be referee to the end and there are two plays that might be used to get the message across. John Adams likes to make sure the message is clear.
I think Adams has plenty of video in the Burr/Higgins/Walton game, he won't need to use this video. Otherwise, you'll start seeing officials make this call. BNR's right, if anything, it'll be a coaching memo to get the players to stop making the officials have to make this decision. If that doesn't work; maybe then he'll want this call made.

Maybe, but doubtful.
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BNR's right, if anything, it'll be a coaching memo to get the players to stop making the officials have to make this decision. If that doesn't work; maybe then he'll want this call made.

Maybe, but doubtful.
but not the first time I've seen it.

Heck I've seen players put the ball on their hip and go shake hands or hug their opponent with the last few ticks just a tickin away.........
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Old Tue Apr 05, 2011, 12:41pm
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The officials get evaluated on every game. They review every play and get scores based on correct call and incorrect calls. It is likely it will be pointed out to them.

I agree it would have been OOO, agree that there is a difference between the two games, and I AGREE WITH THE NO-CALL (I would not have called it either).

I was just stating that I think the message will be referee to the end and there are two plays that might be used to get the message across. John Adams likes to make sure the message is clear.
It might and it might not. But I do not think anyone is going to go crazy over this not being called either. The game is over and the game was not in question. Maybe if the game was on the line yes, but it was not. I doubt this even makes a memo or a video in any way. If anything it might be said directly to the official at hand, but I doubt a big deal will be made out of it in any way.

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Old Wed Apr 06, 2011, 05:37pm
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It might and it might not. But I do not think anyone is going to go crazy over this not being called either. The game is over and the game was not in question. Maybe if the game was on the line yes, but it was not. I doubt this even makes a memo or a video in any way. If anything it might be said directly to the official at hand, but I doubt a big deal will be made out of it in any way.
When I watched it live, I did give it a few seconds of thought, and figured, "Well. The game's over". Thus, I have no problem with the no-call. Lopsided game. Only a few seconds left.

However. Same lopsided score. How much time has to be left to make this violation call? Five seconds? Seven seconds? Ten seconds? Twelve seconds?
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Let's not put a time limit on this... experience will tell us when to blow, just like any other game management decisions we make night to night.
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Old Wed Apr 06, 2011, 06:32pm
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let's not put a time limit on this... Experience will tell us when to blow, just like any other game management decisions we make night to night.
+1 No need to over analyze this; an old dog told me that once.
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The officials get evaluated on every game. They review every play and get scores based on correct call and incorrect calls. It is likely it will be pointed out to them.

I agree it would have been OOO, agree that there is a difference between the two games, and I AGREE WITH THE NO-CALL (I would not have called it either).

I was just stating that I think the message will be referee to the end and there are two plays that might be used to get the message across. John Adams likes to make sure the message is clear.
Not likely. Any evaluator worth their salt will commend them for making a good decision to not call it.

As someone else said, right call, wrong time. Too may want to lose sight of the big picture and make calls without considering the context of the situation.
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