Referee to the end - UConn v Butler

[7IronRef]

Did anyone else notice that with about 1.5 seconds left in the game that the UConn player, who was holding the ball waiting for time to expire, picked up his dribble and jumped coming back to the floor with the ball?

Everyone wanted a pound of flesh from Burr and company. I wonder what Adams thought.

Pretty sure we will see those two plays next year at the preseason meetings. Referee until the end.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by 7IronRef

Did anyone else notice that with about 1.5 seconds left in the game that the UConn player, who was holding the ball waiting for time to expire, picked up his dribble and jumped coming back to the floor with the ball?

Everyone wanted a pound of flesh from Burr and company. I wonder what Adams thought.

Pretty sure we will see those two plays next year at the preseason meetings. Referee until the end.

I saw it.

What are you going to do, blow your whitstle and call a travel?

C'mon, man.

[7IronRef]

Originally Posted by grunewar

I saw it.

What are you going to do, blow your whitstle and call a travel?

C'mon, man.

I hear what you are saying, but Adams has made it clear. If it is a violation at the beginning of the game, it is a violation at the end.

No one is complaining (including me), but if he doesn't hold them accountable, I would believe that Burr & Co would be wondering why they were reprimanded for not calling a travel/OOB and not last nights crew.

We are getting to the point where everyone demands that all things are treated equally.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by 7IronRef

I hear what you are saying, but Adams has made it clear. If it is a violation at the beginning of the game, it is a violation at the end.

No one is complaining (including me), but if he doesn't hold them accountable, I would believe that Burr & Co would be wondering why they were reprimanded for not calling a travel/OOB and not last nights crew.

We are getting to the point where everyone demands that all things are treated equally.

I think Burr and company would recognize there's a difference between a travel with 1.5 seconds left in a 2 point game and a travel with 1.5 seconds left in a 12 point game.

I doubt they're juvenile enough to respond with, "Hey, but look at what they did!"

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I think Burr and company would recognize there's a difference between a travel with 1.5 seconds left in a 2 point game and a travel with 1.5 seconds left in a 12 point game.

That is the important factor. The context must be considered.

Last night neither Butler nor Connecticut cared about those last few seconds. In the Big East tournament Rutgers and St. John's were still playing.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by 7IronRef

We are getting to the point where everyone demands that all things are treated equally.

"Everyone" or you?

That would be the absolute apex of OOO imo.

We also are at the point where a little common sense is needed too. There is absolutely NO comparison between the two situations. One affected the game; the other one if called wouldn't even affect the point spread, let alone anything else. I doubt very much whether Adams has even thought of whether a violation should have been called in that particular circumstance.

[JRutledge]

Seriously????

Peace

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by 7IronRef

I hear what you are saying, but Adams has made it clear. If it is a violation at the beginning of the game, it is a violation at the end.

No one is complaining (including me), but if he doesn't hold them accountable, I would believe that Burr & Co would be wondering why they were reprimanded for not calling a travel/OOB and not last nights crew.

We are getting to the point where everyone demands that all things are treated equally.

Reprimanded...? Didn't Burr work the NCAA tournament?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

Reprimanded...? Didn't Burr work the NCAA tournament?

The whole crew from the Rutgers game was removed from doing games for the rest of the Big East's tournament schedule.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

The whole crew from the Rutgers game was removed from doing games for the rest of the Big East's tournament schedule.

But Burr did get 2 games in the NCAA Tournament.

Higgins received no games but he may not have been receiving any games anyway.

Walton didn't get any NCAA games after working the last couple years. But he did some NIT games.

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

The whole crew from the Rutgers game was removed from doing games for the rest of the Big East's tournament schedule.

I understand...but that had nothing to do with John Adams.

[Indianaref]

Originally Posted by 7IronRef

Did anyone else notice that with about 1.5 seconds left in the game that the UConn player, who was holding the ball waiting for time to expire, picked up his dribble and jumped coming back to the floor with the ball?

Everyone wanted a pound of flesh from Burr and company. I wonder what Adams thought.

Pretty sure we will see those two plays next year at the preseason meetings. Referee until the end.

Hey 7iron, you should have used a 5 iron because you are way short on this.

[7IronRef]

The officials get evaluated on every game. They review every play and get scores based on correct call and incorrect calls. It is likely it will be pointed out to them.

I agree it would have been OOO, agree that there is a difference between the two games, and I AGREE WITH THE NO-CALL (I would not have called it either).

I was just stating that I think the message will be referee to the end and there are two plays that might be used to get the message across. John Adams likes to make sure the message is clear.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by 7IronRef

The officials get evaluated on every game. They review every play and get scores based on correct call and incorrect calls. It is likely it will be pointed out to them.

I agree it would have been OOO, agree that there is a difference between the two games, and I AGREE WITH THE NO-CALL (I would not have called it either).

I was just stating that I think the message will be referee to the end and there are two plays that might be used to get the message across. John Adams likes to make sure the message is clear.

I think Adams has plenty of video in the Burr/Higgins/Walton game, he won't need to use this video. Otherwise, you'll start seeing officials make this call. BNR's right, if anything, it'll be a coaching memo to get the players to stop making the officials have to make this decision. If that doesn't work; maybe then he'll want this call made.

Maybe, but doubtful.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

BNR's right, if anything, it'll be a coaching memo to get the players to stop making the officials have to make this decision. If that doesn't work; maybe then he'll want this call made.

Maybe, but doubtful.

but not the first time I've seen it.

Heck I've seen players put the ball on their hip and go shake hands or hug their opponent with the last few ticks just a tickin away.........