Notice NCAA tournament blatant disregard for 6-foot closely guarded distance?

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Mark, I guess I won't ask your opinion on the "That's nothing!" with a safe signal mechanic in baseball then.

Welpe:

I am not sure I understand what you are describing. I will say: "No catch!" on a trapped ball; "No tag!" on a play such as where R1 is being forced to 2B on a ground ball to F4 and F4 attempts to tag R1 and misses; etc. But I do not know why anybody would anybody say combine the "safe signal" with "That's nothing!" in baseball or softball for that matter.

MTD, Sr.

P.S. Not all coaches are as stupid as we think they are, you will be suprised at how many of them understand the concept that if an official is not showing a visible five-second count it is because there is not CGS and there is not need for the Spread Arm signal. As I have said before, when evaluating an official I could care less whether he uses the signal or not, you just are not going to see me use it ever.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Not all coaches are as stupid as we think they are, you will be suprised at how many of them understand the concept that if an official is not showing a visible five-second count it is because there is not CGS and there is not need for the Spread Arm signal. As I have said before, when evaluating an official I could care less whether he uses the signal or not, you just are not going to see me use it ever.

MTD why dont you tell us how you really feel about it

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Welpe:

I am not sure I understand what you are describing. I will say: "No catch!" on a trapped ball; "No tag!" on a play such as where R1 is being forced to 2B on a ground ball to F4 and F4 attempts to tag R1 and misses; etc. But I do not know why anybody would anybody say combine the "safe signal" with "That's nothing!" in baseball or softball for that matter.

R2. Batted ball to F6. R2 runs in front of F6 and the ball barely misses him.

Umpire should give the safe sign and say "that's nothing" to show he saw the play and judged no interference.

(one example of many).

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

I will say: "No catch!" on a trapped ball; "No tag!" on a play such as where R1 is being forced to 2B on a ground ball to F4 and F4 attempts to tag R1 and misses; etc. But I do not know why anybody would anybody say combine the "safe signal" with "That's nothing!" in baseball or softball for that matter.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

R2. Batted ball to F6. R2 runs in front of F6 and the ball barely misses him. Umpire should give the safe sign and say "that's nothing" to show he saw the play and judged no interference.

There must be something wrong with my computer. When I log onto the Official Forum Basketball, I end up on the Official Forum Baseball.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

R2. Batted ball to F6. R2 runs in front of F6 and the ball barely misses him.

Umpire should give the safe sign and say "that's nothing" to show he saw the play and judged no interference.

(one example of many).

And if I was evaluating an umpire, I would definitely mark that umpire down for NOT giving a safe signal / that's nothing in that situation.

Yes, it's an optional signal in basketball for not CG. But there are times when it's a perfectly valid signal to give. There are times when I will birddog, too (when there's a few defenders around and there's doubt on who committed the foul).

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Yes, it's an optional signal in basketball for not CG. But there are times when it's a perfectly valid signal to give. There are times when I will birddog, too (when there's a few defenders around and there's doubt on who committed the foul).

The only time to give the signal in the first place is when the count distance is not "clear" to everyone that is watching. All the official is doing is telling everyone "I do not have a count because the defender is not in the right distance in my judgment." A lot of times coaches complain when they think there should be a count. This just tells everyone why you do not. It should be used rarely in most cases when players are standing around.

Peace