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Old Mon Mar 14, 2011, 06:39pm
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I know kids that call each other things that are inappropriate, but I would never consider those to be something that is an "automatic" T. The POE is created by people that do not have to live in an area and do not understand the cultural, social-economic and social expectations from different areas.
If kids hurling f bombs at each other is ok, your social-economic system needs adjustment. We can't change the world, but we can control our little part of it. Call the T.
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Old Mon Mar 14, 2011, 06:55pm
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If kids hurling f bombs at each other is ok, your social-economic system needs adjustment. We can't change the world, but we can control our little part of it. Call the T.
You work games for the same price you have for almost 20 years and you are questioning what I do in my little neck of the woods?

Irony!!!!

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Old Mon Mar 14, 2011, 07:38pm
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You work games for the same price you have for almost 20 years and you are questioning what I do in my little neck of the woods?

Irony!!!!

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Certainly a relevant point. Nice job, Rut.
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Old Mon Mar 14, 2011, 07:46pm
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Certainly a relevant point. Nice job, Rut.
If you are going to tell me what moral code I must hold, then be prepared for that same argument to be made. This is more of a moral issue than a rules issue. "Profanity" standards do not apply the same across the country or even Religious communities.

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Old Mon Mar 14, 2011, 08:06pm
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If you are going to tell me what moral code I must hold, then be prepared for that same argument to be made. This is more of a moral issue than a rules issue. "Profanity" standards do not apply the same across the country or even Religious communities.

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This is not about a moral code. It is about acceptable public behavior. Do the kids in school use the f word in their conversations in the classroom in your area? I doubt it. And if you do consider it a moral issue, this triggers you to bring up financial issues. Makes sense.
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Old Mon Mar 14, 2011, 08:18pm
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This is not about a moral code. It is about acceptable public behavior.
Acceptable public behavior changes based on the community you are in and a moral standard. It might not be a Religious one, but a moral standard.

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Do the kids in school use the f word in their conversations in the classroom in your area? I doubt it.
You need to get out more often. You think every kid is put into detention when they use "foul" language in all school districts or levels?

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And if you do consider it a moral issue, this triggers you to bring up financial issues. Makes sense.
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We can't change the world, but we can control our little part of it.
And if you are worried about what standards I use, why did you use not my personal standards as to what games you worked in your area? I did not invoke in this thread what standards you should use. Actually I can live with whatever you do here. I simply am saying that I want more than "heard by the bench." And I do not believe in "automatic Ts." I think everything we can use our judgment is subjected to circumstances.

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Old Mon Mar 14, 2011, 08:35pm
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You need to get out more often. You think every kid is put into detention when they use "foul" language in all school districts or levels?

Kid at your neighborhood high school drops his book on the floor. Says "Oh, f***!" loud enough for the teacher to hear, and nothing happens?

And you think this is a good idea?

I have no further questions.
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Old Mon Mar 14, 2011, 09:02pm
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I have only read the first page of post and feel that I cannot wait to jump into the fray.

There is no context to examine in the OP. This is a no brainer and is definitely what the recent NFHS POE's have addressed.

Ladies and germs (I mean gentlemen) I have been on construction sites all of my adult life and even before that. I have heard every profane word that one can think of and:

a) If you have no hair, I can make you grow it;
b) If you have hair, I can make it fall out;
c) If your hair is straight, I can curl it; and
d) If you hair is curly, I can straighten it.

I think you get my drift. And the OP is a TF every time. There is no excuse not to charge A1 with a TF.

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I work in a conference where they tell us profanity = T. I work in other conferences which tell us to manage the situation as we see fit.

In a HS game, I would probably call a T.
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