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Old Wed Mar 09, 2011, 06:02pm
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Old Wed Mar 09, 2011, 06:05pm
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I was hoping for the "over the back" call that's being discussed, but as for the OOB at the end, I'd say their only hope is that the clock on the court is about 1.7 seconds faster than the one we're seeing on the broadcast.
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Old Wed Mar 09, 2011, 06:12pm
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I don't have a foul. There was no travel. He gained possession with one foot on the floor and then stepped OOB.
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Old Wed Mar 09, 2011, 06:18pm
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Exactly ... There was NO TRAVEL. Can't somebody tell Digger Phelps and the gang this!
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Old Wed Mar 09, 2011, 06:31pm
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Just to throw my two cents in watching this. I had no foul in the loose ball and no travel. The player does appear to step out of bounds at 1.7 seconds. It appears to me all three officials assumed the game was just going to end. The trail official should have been "in the game" and noticed the OOB call.
As for each official, this one terrible ending to a game shouldn't affect their tournament eligability. Jim Burr is good but nearing his career. I'd still put him in the tournament, if only for the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Tim Higgins needed to retire years ago in my opinion. It's hard watching him try to get into position all game long. I wouldn't have him in the tournament as has been the case in recent years. Earl Walton should remain tournament eligable (and wasn't in position to make the OOB call).
This just doesn't look very good for NCAA officials.
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Old Wed Mar 09, 2011, 06:42pm
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Just to throw my two cents in watching this. I had no foul in the loose ball and no travel. The player does appear to step out of bounds at 1.7 seconds. It appears to me all three officials assumed the game was just going to end. The trail official should have been "in the game" and noticed the OOB call.
As for each official, this one terrible ending to a game shouldn't affect their tournament eligability. Jim Burr is good but nearing his career. I'd still put him in the tournament, if only for the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Tim Higgins needed to retire years ago in my opinion. It's hard watching him try to get into position all game long. I wouldn't have him in the tournament as has been the case in recent years. Earl Walton should remain tournament eligable (and wasn't in position to make the OOB call).
This just doesn't look very good for NCAA officials.
The two officials you are talking about have not work pass the first weekend (and one game at that) for the passed couple of years. Not sure this game was going to change that.

I would not go as far as say it looks bad on NCAA officials but looks bad on these officials and their conference. If they are not working much more I do not see this as an issue at all. What looks bad is we have commentators that comment about things they have no idea about. Because if it was a travel, say why it was a travel. But then again the public thinks that "3 steps" is illegal when it is not.

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Old Wed Mar 09, 2011, 06:52pm
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Because if it was a travel, say why it was a travel. But then again the public thinks that "3 steps" is illegal when it is not.

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Ignoring the OOB issue and the clock -- that is if the play had been in bounds and with time on the clock -- don't you think it was a travel? Again, I only saw it once, but it looked to me as though he gathered, landed on one foot, and returned that pivot before tossing the ball into the crowd (which, in this case, occurred in 3 steps).

If all the announcers are saying is effectively, "even if it was in bounds, it looked like a travel," is that a problem?
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Old Wed Mar 09, 2011, 06:37pm
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Exactly ... There was NO TRAVEL. Can't somebody tell Digger Phelps and the gang this!
Maybe they are trying to make the point that even if you don't have him out of bounds, you should have a walk?

On the one replay I saw, it did look like the third step landed before he released the ball, but I only saw it once.
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