Great officials gesture

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by just another ref

+1 And who would possibly object? This is a rare instance where " 'Cause I wanted to and I'm the ref," is ok, in my opinion.

And you would be willing to risk a D-1 contract on that???

We all know what he did, and hopefully the supervisor of that conference gives him the proverbial pat on the back...but there is no provision in the rules for simply blowing the whistle to bring a sub in just because the game is a blowout and it makes for a "nice gesture."

If the official did as you suggested, the losing coach would then have ammo to take to the conference office against that official. The way the official handled it, the losing coach may be mad, but there isn't a darn thing he can do about it.

[APG]

Couldn't a coach go back and look at the tape and point out that the official's shoelaces weren't untied or that the official took out a coin from his pocket and put the coin on the court? You know, if there was a coach that wanted to go that route and complain about this.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Couldn't a coach go back and look at the tape and point out that the official's shoelaces weren't untied or that the official took out a coin from his pocket and put the coin on the court? You know, if there was a coach that wanted to go that route and complain about this.

And when the losing coach complains, all the official has to do is say "My shoe was loose on my foot - I needed to tie it tighter."

The coin one I would not do...

But simply blowing the whistle to bring the sub on is a good way to get yourself in trouble with a supervison/assignor.

[JRutledge]

I never understand why officials worry about what kids play. This is on the coach and they can do all kinds of things to allow the kid to play. I agree it is a nice gesture, but I would not be doing this at all. Why open myself up for something to be scrutinized by unless this was a directive from the conference to do such a thing.

Peace

[Raymond]

All OSU had to do was call a time-out for substitution purposes only. You are not required to used the entire T-O in NCAA ball.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

All OSU had to do was call a time-out for substitution purposes only. You are not required to used the entire T-O in NCAA ball.

NFHS - I don't have my books handy. But, in HS, if one team is ready to go and the other not, don't you need to maintain the TO length. i.e. - you can't shorten a 60 sec TO to 40 secs unless both teams are ready, correct?

So, you're saying it's different in NCAA?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by grunewar

NFHS - I don't have my books handy. But, in HS, if one team is ready to go and the other not, don't you need to maintain the TO length. i.e. - you can't shorten a 60 sec TO to 40 secs unless both teams are ready, correct?

So, you're saying it's different in NCAA?

Yes. If the calling team chooses to use a TO to get a player into the game and then is ready to play, the timeout is over.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by grunewar

NFHS - I don't have my books handy. But, in HS, if one team is ready to go and the other not, don't you need to maintain the TO length. i.e. - you can't shorten a 60 sec TO to 40 secs unless both teams are ready, correct?

So, you're saying it's different in NCAA?

You are correct for NFHS, I believe the calling team has the option to shorten it in NCAA.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by grunewar

NFHS - I don't have my books handy. But, in HS, if one team is ready to go and the other not, don't you need to maintain the TO length. i.e. - you can't shorten a 60 sec TO to 40 secs unless both teams are ready, correct?

So, you're saying it's different in NCAA?

In NCAA, the calling team can shorten the TO, AND there's also a "TO for subs" that is basically zero seconds long. Subs at the table are brought in, the opposing team is allowed an opportunity to counter and the game resumes.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

All OSU had to do was call a time-out for substitution purposes only. You are not required to used the entire T-O in NCAA ball.

They still have to use a timeout, but it is not a timeout like a normal timeout. But they still have to have one to accomplish this.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

They still have to use a timeout, but it is not a timeout like a normal timeout. But they still have to have one to accomplish this.

Peace

They had a 30 point lead. Even if they had ZERO time-outs they could have called one, ate a Technical, and got their sub in the game.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Couldn't a coach go back and look at the tape and point out that the official's shoelaces ....

I have a 52" HD LCD TV and I couldn't see if his shoelaces were untied or not.

Beside, all he has to say is "My shoe laces were loose," not that anyone is going to say anything.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

And you would be willing to risk a D-1 contract on that???

I didn't know my D-1 contract was at stake. I wouldn't risk my D-1 contract on faking tying my shoe, either.